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From: Natalie Wiest <wiestn_at_tamug.edu>
subject: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:58:38 -0500
I've spent quite a long time looking at shoe alternatives too.  Here in Gulf coast Texas, keeping the feet warm isn't a big issue, but I consider protection from sharp oyster shells a top priority.  The cheapie "water shoes" may be OK on a sand beach, but don't stay on the feet worth a flip in mud (and sooner or later you'll find it here...) or turbulence. Lousy on rocks, not much support for any kind of walking. As noted in other strands, many of the other varieties don't dry very well either.  I've finally tried Salomon Tech Amphibians and I am very happy with them.  Well ventilated, drain well, good foot protection, great for walking.  I did have to resort to ordering through the Internet however, it's hard to find women's shoes in the smaller size range (i.e., men's smallest sizes way too big for me) in local shops.  I'm not a fan of sandals either, little or no foot protection among oyster shells or fire ants, sunburn on top of the foot when out of the boat, potential for entrapment in rough exits.  Thankfully I've never had to worry about foot size and fitting in the boat.

Natalie Wiest
Galveston, Texas
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From: Joyce, Thomas F. <TJoyce_at_bellboyd.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:24:24 -0500
I recycle my running shoes into all-purpose walking around shoes and
then into something like household slippers before abandoning them to
the status as water shoes.  By stage 3 they fit so comfortably I don't
bother lacing them.  By stage 4, still laceable, they are exceedingly
comfortable, well-ventilated, give good protection against sharp rocks,
and even function as adequate land shoes for short distances.  I don't
care if I ruin them cause there's always another pair in the garage.
Not necessarily the solution for everyone, but it works for me.

TFJ



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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:44:51 -0400
On 25 Oct 2004 at 12:24, Joyce, Thomas F. wrote:

> I recycle my running shoes into all-purpose walking around shoes and
> then into something like household slippers before abandoning them to
> the status as water shoes.

I wish I could do that.  The problem I have is that the soles of most
running shoes are too thick (especially at the heel) and with my big
feet, I can't get them into the kayak.  Even water shoes that are
similar to running shoes almost always have thick heels.  It seems
that water shoe designers go to two extremes - ultra-thin soles
with no support and little protection or thick soles like serious
running shoes that only fit in a kayak if you've got size 6 feet.

I have an old pair of Teva water shoes that are intermediate in sole
thickness and work ok.  Naturally, they are out of production and 
the "leather", supposedly ideal for water, is turning into cardboard
after being soaked and dried repeatedly.

Mike
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0700
I'll repeat my endorsement of the Five-Ten watershoes I use:  the Nemo, which 
comes in a low version and a high-top version.  Mine: 
http://www.spelean.com.au/FT/Product/water/nemo.html

About USD $55, here, anyway: 
http://www.sportextreme.com/pz1000004x10017yUSD/

The heels are not huge, the soles are not overly thick, and the rubber seems 
to do a better-than-average job of reducing slippery rocks to reliable 
stepping stones.

They drain pretty well, and have removable inserts for quicker drying ... 
which has never seemed like a major requirement for a shoe that is used wet 
almost all the time.

No affiliation with Five Ten, or the retailer URL'ed above.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Daly" <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>

> The problem I have is that the soles of most
> running shoes are too thick (especially at the heel) and with my big
> feet, I can't get them into the kayak.  Even water shoes that are
> similar to running shoes almost always have thick heels. 
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:17:24 -0400
On 25 Oct 2004 at 12:37, Dave Kruger wrote:

> I'll repeat my endorsement of the Five-Ten watershoes I use:  the
> Nemo, which comes in a low version and a high-top version.  Mine:
> http://www.spelean.com.au/FT/Product/water/nemo.html

I tried them on and the largest size is just too small.  If they were 
a half size bigger, they'd be perfect.  Bummer, since they were on 
sale at MEC cheaper than the US price!

One thing I didn't like about the high top version (aside from 
scrunching my toes) was that the upper part wasn't smooth and bits of 
the fabric and such dug into the top of my foot.  I don't remember if 
it was a seam or a zipper.  I expected a much smoother insides, like 
my generic reef boots.  I wouldn't be able to wear them barefoot for 
very long.  It could be the sample I tried was defective.

In the back of my mind is a plan to get a Five-Ten resole kit and 
glue that to a heavy neoprene sock.  In fact, I might still do that 
when the latex socks wear out on my drysuit.

Mike
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:53:58 -0700
> I'll repeat my endorsement of the Five-Ten watershoes I use:  the Nemo,
which
> comes in a low version and a high-top version.  Mine:
> http://www.spelean.com.au/FT/Product/water/nemo.html
>
> About USD $55, here, anyway:
> http://www.sportextreme.com/pz1000004x10017yUSD/
>
> The heels are not huge, the soles are not overly thick, and the rubber
seems
> to do a better-than-average job of reducing slippery rocks to reliable
> stepping stones.

Dave, did you ever have NRS Shark Attack, can you tell how fast these
Five-Ten dry compared to NRS Shark?
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:25:07 -0700
No experience with Shark Attack.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "alex" <al.m_at_3web.net>

> Dave, did you ever have NRS Shark Attack, can you tell how fast these
> Five-Ten dry compared to NRS Shark?
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From: Victor Okunev <unrealokun_at_yahoo.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:21:08 -0400 (EDT)
I love my shoes made by a Canadian company that are made of moulded foam. These
shoes become increasingly popular in BC. They are durable, they float, they dry
quick and they are extremely comfortable. In fact, I wear them at home too!
Some people take them as the only pair of shoes on the two-week kayaking trips.
The shoes are not sandals, but they have large holes to wash away that sand or
gravel. The least but not last they cost only $24 CDN. Here is the
manufacturer's website: http://www.holeysoles.com/

Cheers,

Victor 

 --- Natalie Wiest <wiestn_at_tamug.edu> wrote: 
> I've spent quite a long time looking at shoe alternatives too.  Here in Gulf
> coast Texas, keeping the feet warm isn't a big issue, but I consider
> protection from sharp oyster shells a top priority.  The cheapie "water
> shoes" may be OK on a sand beach, but don't stay on the feet worth a flip in
> mud (and sooner or later you'll find it here...) or turbulence. Lousy on
> rocks, not much support for any kind of walking.
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:58:05 -0700
My fiance loves hers, also.  She got them from a catalog outlet somewhere. 
Surprisingly durable and comfy.  They will not keep out sand and small 
stones, but they are easily flushed.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Okunev" <unrealokun_at_yahoo.ca>

>I love my shoes made by a Canadian company that are made of moulded foam. 
>These
> shoes become increasingly popular in BC. They are durable, they float, they 
> dry
> quick and they are extremely comfortable. In fact, I wear them at home too!
> Some people take them as the only pair of shoes on the two-week kayaking 
> trips.
> The shoes are not sandals, but they have large holes to wash away that sand 
> or
> gravel. The least but not last they cost only $24 CDN. Here is the
> manufacturer's website: http://www.holeysoles.com/ 
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From: Ong Yong Hui <happywolfie_at_hotpop.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:22:51 +0800
For keeping out sand, highcut water shoes (neoprene diving types are most
commonly available where I stay) are a good choice, the only problem being
that their soles usually don't last very long. But considering that most of
the time are spent on the kayak instead of walking around in them, one can
consider them for their cheap prices. NRS's water shoes is good for covering
above the ankle, and have a tough and durable soles for walking, but they
are quite expensive in comparison.

Best, 
Ong Yong Hui
Singapore
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Water Shoes
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:26:22 -0700
> I love my shoes made by a Canadian company that are made of moulded foam.
These
> shoes become increasingly popular in BC. They are durable, they float,
they dry
> quick and they are extremely comfortable. In fact, I wear them at home
too!
> Some people take them as the only pair of shoes on the two-week kayaking
trips.
> The shoes are not sandals, but they have large holes to wash away that
sand or
> gravel. The least but not last they cost only $24 CDN. Here is the
> manufacturer's website: http://www.holeysoles.com/

Yes, good thing for summer.  Very similar-looking ones cost $CDN 16 at MEC
store (used to be CDN 20, but MEC has recently lowered prices in $CDN since
$CDN is now more expensive):
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=676791&P
RODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=575205&bmUID=1099088122204

Only one variety (no heel strap), and made in China.  Though, my NRS Shark
Attack Shoes are made there too.  Many tents and sleeping bags by very
respected brands are made in either Vietnam or China nowdays, as I can see.
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