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From: Victor Okunev <venuko_at_gmail.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:10:53 -0800
Hi All,

The Canadian (and perhaps international) marine radio communication
protocol requires the calling party to supply own call sign and the
boat name.  I am not sure what should I use when calling from a kayak
using a handheld VHF radio. I don't have a call sign and the name of
my kayak (White Fang) is not registered anywhere. Do you think this
should do it:

"Tofino Coast Guard, this is Sea Kayaker. Over"

Vic.
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:13:07 -0800
 Victor Okunev said: 

> The Canadian (and perhaps international) marine radio 
> communication protocol requires the calling party to supply 
> own call sign and the boat name.  I am not sure what should I 
> use when calling from a kayak using a handheld VHF radio. I 
> don't have a call sign and the name of my kayak (White Fang) 
> is not registered anywhere. Do you think this should do it:
> 
> "Tofino Coast Guard, this is Sea Kayaker. Over"

In the US, the kayak does not need to be registered nor do you need a
license for the VHF. I have just been using the name I gave my kayak - Foggy
Day.

In our group we have a retired fire captain - Pyropeter
A psycho-therapist - Psycho John
A friend who cracked the hull of his boat in a rock garden -- Hull Cracker

The list goes on like that. Come up with a name for your boat and/or a good
nickname for yourself.

Steve Holtzman
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:38:12 -0800
Victor,

The protocol when I paddled in BC was the same as the US:  your call sign is 
the name of your vessel.  Not familiar with how the official Canadian regs 
read, but I'll tell you I had occasion to contact the CCG twice, once for an 
overdue paddler, and once to change a float plan.  And, they did not want my 
license number or any of that.  They wanted to get the transaction done and 
to get on to the next urgent matter.

Pretty much the same approach as down here.

If you listen to power boats on the VHF, you can model your interactions on 
what they do.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR 
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From: Richard Birdsey <birdseyclan_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:29:08 +1100
Down here in Australia regs do not require kayaks  to be registered (so 
far) but you do need a licence to operate a VHF. Being safety and 
community minded I joined our (volunteer) Coast Guard and my membership 
gets me a call sign and my details recorded on their computer so when I 
call in they know exactly who I am and what I am in. The call sign is 
region specific and unique for the Coast Guard. For $45 a year it is 
cheap insurance. Some kayakers join fishing clubs to get call signs.

Also on names, I'd suggest sticking to something simple and comes across 
the VHF clearly. I have heard some pretty interesting permutations of 
too complicated kayak names coming back from radio operators. "Bai-duck' 
for 'baidarka' is my favourite and the recipient has never lived it down.

Richard ('Mirage') Birdsey.
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From: Victor Okunev <venuko_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:36:15 -0800
As much as I love "White Fang" for my white Current Designs Libra, I
afraid it won't come across VHF clearly. May be I have to blame my
Russian accent here. I guess I have to come up with something more
catchy. How about "Libracadabra" :)

> Also on names, I'd suggest sticking to something simple and comes across
> the VHF clearly. I have heard some pretty interesting permutations of
> too complicated kayak names coming back from radio operators. "Bai-duck'
> for 'baidarka' is my favourite and the recipient has never lived it down.
> 
> Richard ('Mirage') Birdsey.
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:06:16 -0500
On 18 Nov 2004 at 16:10, Victor Okunev wrote:

> The Canadian (and perhaps international) marine radio communication
> protocol requires the calling party to supply own call sign and the
> boat name.  I am not sure what should I use when calling from a kayak
> using a handheld VHF radio. I don't have a call sign and the name of
> my kayak (White Fang) is not registered anywhere.

As others have said - any name is suitable.  The Canadian regs allow 
you to use any name if you are calling from an unregistered vessel.  
If you have a station license (i.e. for commercial or large vessels) 
then you supply a registered name.  If you have a licensed boat, you 
can use the boat's name.

White Fang sounds reasonable.  I think that if you are going to make 
a call, it should be an important one.  In that case. use a brief 
name that is recognizable and easy to remember.  White Fang, at two 
syllables fits that - plus lot's of Canadians are familiar with the 
Jack London story and will recognize the name.

Be consistent as well - always use the same name and don't make up a 
different name every time you make a call.

Mike
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From: PC Paddle & Oar <pcpaddle.oar_at_ns.sympatico.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:34:34 -0400
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I use "Yellow Kayak".
I figure a fishing boat operator or a Coast Guard skipper won't be impressed 
with a cool handle.

Glenn

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From: "Michael Daly" <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak

> On 18 Nov 2004 at 16:10, Victor Okunev wrote:
>
>> The Canadian (and perhaps international) marine radio communication
>> protocol requires the calling party to supply own call sign and the
>> boat name.  I am not sure what should I use when calling from a kayak
>> using a handheld VHF radio. I don't have a call sign and the name of
>> my kayak (White Fang) is not registered anywhere.
>
> As others have said - any name is suitable.  The Canadian regs allow
> you to use any name if you are calling from an unregistered vessel.
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] placing a VHF call from a kayak
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 06:52:40 +1100
Glen wrote:
>I use "Yellow Kayak".
>I figure a fishing boat operator or a
>Coast Guard skipper won't be impressed
>with a cool handle.

G'Day,

Yellow kayak wouldn't really work in this neck of the woods. Just about
every second hire kayak is yellow.

I make sure my kayak name 'Rebyl' is written boldly on the boat. On trips
when I'm taking out a group we list the kayak descriptions and names, car
registration numbers and parking locations and give the list with the trip
plan to a contact on land or to the water police or coastguard. So if
anything did go wrong missing people/boats can be identified. I've been in
one situation (not as a trip leader), where this turned out to be really
useful.

When I'm in the Klepper foldable people call me 'UBoat' for some reason.
Apparently on the water it looks like a UBoat about to surface.

All the best, PeterO
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