At 10:36 PM 11/30/2004 -0800, Doug Lloyd wrote: >Dave replied: > >>Doug, your statement >> >>"Those who knowingly go out of bounds from defined area such as alpine >>ski areas ..." >> >>is only a short step away from those who knowingly challenge marine areas >>such as the Columbia River Bar, which is periodically closed to all forms >>of shipping, and regularly closed to small vessels during gnarly storm >>conditions. > >>I suspect, to be consistent, you would have yourself billed for any >>rescue of your sinus-satisfied heart if you needed one on the Bar **when >>it is closed.** > > > >Alas, my wayward ass would be grass. Indeed Dave, the US Coast Guard can >terminate any voyage they deem as a manifestly unsafe voyage or where, in >their opinion, a vessel is deemed to be operating unsafely in hazardous >conditions. Similarly, it's not uncommon for a ski patrol to "pull the ticket" on a skier if the skier is deemed unsafe. Granted, an out of control skier poses a risk to other skiers but it may also be for their own safety, and is typically because the skier doesn't possess the skill to handle the terrain they're attempting to ski, not unlike a marginally equipped boater going out in hazardous conditions. >You added (snip): > >>It's a slippery slope, Doug. I think I hear the sound of sliding ... > >Yeah, sliding downhill now that I'm over-the-hill where it's all downhill, >rolling toward eventual geriatric malaise... > >Doug Lloyd (who skied out of bounds for years, until in became too >politically incorrect (and possibly expensive). I had the fortune to be able to ski every day for four weeks along side a ski patron at Arapahoe Basin in Colorado. Not only are there are a number of out of bounds areas that the patrols will look the other way if someone is seen heading down them, but many them are named runs. One of my most memorable skiing experiences was skiing an out-of-bounds run called "Dave's Wave" which ran from the top of the pass down to the resort under a full moon. I also had the fortune of being able to ski in Chamonix a couple of years ago. It's interesting that in Europe there really aren't any out of bounds areas but, instead the terrain is called "off piste" (off trail). Across the valley from the resort I skied as an area call Aiguille Du Midi, which essentially consisted of a tram (the highest in the world) then went up near the top of the mountain. All of the terrain was "off piste". It was strongly recommended that anyone skiing the area do so with a guide but it wasn't mandatory. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Dec 01 2004 - 05:42:10 PST
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