Scott replied: > Somewhat along these lines, I read the book, "Into Thin Air," by Jon > Krakauer about an ill fated Mt. Everest expedition. At one point the > author > describes how the bodies of climbers who had succumbed to the elements in > past expedition are just left on the mountain since any recovery would be > too difficult. Sometimes the body's surface in the ice and the current > climbers just step over them, more or less. Sounds good to me :-)) I enjoyed the Everest IMAX film too, which was filmed during the harrowing events written in the book you mention. It was interesting to note the difference in attitude toward risk that the IMAX team displayed. Yes, they knew they were in the shadow of a very dangerous mountain, and that correspondingly, death could visit any member of the team at any time. However, and this is a big however, they refused to asend during the same climbing window that the ill-fated climbers chose, presisely because Ed Viesturs (one of my heros) will not venture beyond his comfort zone. Not sure how one quantifies "their comfort zone," but it's something "safe" risk-takers know very well; and they at least attempt to maximize their chances of success and minimize the possible loss of life and loss to family and loved ones that their deaths might cause - let alone high-altitude rescue attempts. Another interesting take on this topic is Joe Simpson's experiences dramitized in the movie 'Touching the Void' (I haven't read the book yet). He and his climbing partner challenged an almost unclimable mountain in the Andes with no back-up, no imminent rescue methodology, etc. This was pure risk-taking at it's maximum society-accepted level with far-reaching consequences for the two men. Joe is also one of my heroes, perhaps not for his careful approach (pardon the pun), but for his persistence as he spent delerious days crawling down the mountain in excrutiating pain on his own. In the final analyis, he lost any concept or belief in a personal, carring God (too bad Ronnie was there to _preach it brother_!). This I found interesting, as many a man turns toward the spiritual during times of duress, though he longed anguishingly for hman contact. He felt utterly alone. What aweful destitution. Yet, Joe will remain one of my heroes for the rest of my life, the dramitization in the movie firmly burned into my mind, as he pulled himself, so to speak, out of a terrible situation. I like that self-sufficiency and the pragmatic/pshycological motivating way he mapped out each short stage of his decent, trying each time for yet another few yards. One of the motivational speakers we use in a youth organization I assosiate myself with (YFC) was the bloke who fell off a BC ferry a few years back, surviving the night in the Strait of Georgia (he had the flu, went to puke over the side, and fell in, un-noticed). He survived, amazingly, for over ten hours, taking a 300-yard swim, then another, then another, never giving up. Having been in a few life-threatening predicaments while paddling over the last few years, I can relate to that attitude. Having been in more than a few health-related life-challenging situations over the last few years and more recently, I've come to appreciate that "never give up" attitude more intensly than I'd have wished upon myself. Anyway, no dead paddler bodies here in BC to walk over on the beach, the crabs get'em first. Though, my friend Doug Alderson came upon the busted-up remains of one of the kayaks of the two paddlers who perished off Nootka Island not too long ago. He said it was a very sobering experience. Loss of life or he immediency of that possiblility can be that way, can't it? Doug Lloyd (who just spent three months in very poor health quietly meditating on the nature of God, coming to the conclusion that most religious people understand God the least: so now back to storm paddling soon, I hope). Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Dec 09 2004 - 22:43:33 PST
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