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From: <chris_at_tejirian.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 04:17:53 -0800
I subscribe to the digest version of Paddlewise.  It seems to trigger 
being sent when it reaches somewhere between 30 and 40 KB.  This has a 
couple of disadvantages for me.  One is that, sometimes, I receive a 
digest a week after the enclosed posts have been written.  Another is 
that the digests are big enough to encourage me to delete them, rather 
than saving one with an interesting letter that I may want to refer 
back to.  Having the trigger point for sending the digest lowered to 
20KB or so would go a long way towards alleviating these problems.  
Some may say that I should receive all the messages seperately, but I 
am not willing to have my inbox clogged up in that manner.

I would appreciate any responses, whether in agreement or disagreement.

Happy New Year to all,
Chris
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From: WhiteRabbit <whiterabbit_0117_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:09:23 -0600
Some list servers have the option to deliver a digest daily.   That has the 
advantage of being relatively current, but still reduces the number of 
messages.  No idea what the options are on the Paddlewise server.

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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:16:22 -0500
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:09:23 -0600, "WhiteRabbit"
<whiterabbit_0117_at_charter.net> said:
> Some list servers have the option to deliver a digest daily.   That has
> the 
> advantage of being relatively current, but still reduces the number of 
> messages.  No idea what the options are on the Paddlewise server.

Paddlewise has been configured to send the digest every 2000 lines or
every 7 days, whichever comes first.  I expect those are the original
defaults.  7 days seemed too long so I've changed that to every 3 days.

Every email package that I use, Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, Pine,
and several web based email services, has the capability of filtering
email as it is received into separate folders.  

For each mailing list that I subscribe to I've set up the email package
to deliver to separate email folders.  Cluttering an inbox with traffic
from a particular list is highly avoidable.

People who have specific questions about setting up mailbox filtering on
commonly available email packages can email me, directly, and I'll do my
best to help.

Kirk
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  Kirk Olsen
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From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:47:36 -0500
[geek content follows]

On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 02:16:22PM -0500, Kirk Olsen wrote:
> Every email package that I use, Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, Pine,
> and several web based email services, has the capability of filtering
> email as it is received into separate folders.  

Let me give a *strong* recommendation that folks run, not walk, over
to www.mozilla.org, and download "Thunderbird".  It is the best mail
client (with a GUI) available.  It runs on everything.  It's free.
It's open-source -- and therefore peer-reviewed, and therefore far
more likely than closed-source to have seriously addressed issues of
utmost importance -- like security.  And it keeps getting better, quickly.

It's not perfect: nothing is.  But it will do exactly what Kirk
suggested, that is, filter mail as it's received into separate folders.
(I happen to use procmail to do that, but the principle is the same;
and given that I'm maintaining 638 folders at the moment, I couldn't
live without that functionality. ;-) )

While you're there, grab the Firefox web browser as well: also
runs on everything, also free, also open-source, etc.  It's so much
better than everything else at this point that comparisons are moot.

And as soon as you get used to them -- which should be about five
minutes after you start using them -- dump Outlook and IE, because
using those programs are just about the two most dangerous things
you can possibly do online.  (I'll skip the explanation of why
because this is wandering off-topic as it is, but there are now
companies which will fire you on spot if you're caught using them.
As a professional Internet security architect, I think that's a
very sensible policy; yeah, they're _that_ bad.)

---Rsk
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From: Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:28:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Kirk Olsen" <kork4_at_cluemail.com>

> People who have specific questions about setting up mailbox filtering on
> commonly available email packages can email me, directly, and I'll do my
> best to help.

That's very generous of you Kirk and I'm sure your efforts are 
greatly appreciated by PaddleWisers.  

Happy New Year PaddleWisers!

Jackie
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:29:44 +1100
Jackie wrote:
>That's very generous of you Kirk and I'm sure
>your efforts are greatly appreciated by PaddleWisers.

G'Day Jackie, Kirk and Paddlewise,

Jackie you're spot on! Kirk's efforts, and your's in hosting the server, are
most certainly appreciated by myself and I'm sure many others.

Paddlewise contributes hugely to my enjoyment and understanding of kayaking,
as do some of the websites skilfully crafted by its members and which I
would not know about without this forum.

Personally I'ld double Kirk's salary or at least buy him a beer or two if we
ever get a chance to meet.

All the best. Many thanks and a happy New Year, PeterO
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Request for a change to the digest version
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 21:33:19 +1100
I wrote
>Personally I'ld double Kirk's salary or at
>least buy him a beer or two if we ever get
>a chance to meet.

G'Day,

It just occurred to me that 'in' jokes can sometimes backfire and that not
every one might realise that Paddlewise is run entirely voluntarily - no pay
involved - all the more impressive!

So thanks again, PeterO
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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Who does what.
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 21:33:19 +1100, "PeterO" <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
said:

> It just occurred to me that 'in' jokes can sometimes backfire and that
> not every one might realise that Paddlewise is run entirely voluntarily - no
> pay involved - all the more impressive!

Feeling a need to give all of the "volunteers" credit for keeping
paddlewise functioning....

Bob M. runs the physical system on which paddlewise is based.  I'm not
sure Bob volunteered so much as he is stuck with us.

Peter Osman maintains the Who's Who.

Jackie fills in on occaision when I do things like take a vacation.  She
also offers opinions when I have questions and gives me a heads up if
something is amiss.  There are a couple other people who have done this
and it's appreciated.

J.J. has filled in for me when I went on vacation, again much
appreciated, and invisible to readers.

I do the day to day stuff, and once in a great while update the website.
 The website has languished since I took over, as I simply haven't had
time to do updates.  If someone wants to format "memorable" posts for
the archives feel free to let me know, and send me formatted content ;-)
 I've got a 4 day weekend, I'm thinking I might get some time to format
some of the 35 contributions that I have queued up for
formatting/posting.

Peter's comment about meeting people from paddlewise got me thinking.  I
believe I've only met, in real life, 6 members of paddlewise.  4 on the
US west coast and 2 on the US east coast.  Two of the 4 on the west
coast were from posting requests, to paddlewise, looking for paddling
partners while I was travelling (both wonderful events).


For some paddling specific content.  It's 50 degrees (fahrenheit) here
today.  My canoe partner and I paddled a local river where there was a
quarter to half mile stretch we could paddle, between ice jams.  We had
to break a section of ice out and push the ice into the current to make
a launch site.  The thin ice shelves along the river made an interesting
 tinkling sound as the wake from the canoe hit them.  It wasn't much,
but most of the fresh water around here is hard.  It was a little too
windy today to take a canoe into the ocean, beyond my worthwhile risk
assessment.....

Happy New Year.
Kirk
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  Kirk Olsen
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