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From: <skip-sherrod_at_comcast.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddling with my Dog - signature files
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:05:26 -0600
 From: kayakwriter_at_netscape.net

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Cheers,

Philip  
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I usually scan the PaddleWise digest for items of interest. I do have a
retriever dog so the "Paddling with Dog" post caught my eye.  I just
finished reading kayakwriter's explanation of how the "Dog" post was
inappropriate because it was a thinly disguised ad for a new kayak
product. After kayakwriters explanation I was surprised to see about 10
lines of Netscape advertising under signature.  So what I'm wondering is
this - would it have been ok if Bart had written a sentence or two about
a stove or digital camera and then encapsulated a 10 line commercial
message below his signature?  And if that's not ok then shouldn't Philip
be asked to find an email service that doesn't force commercial ads on
the non-commercial groups such as PaddleWise?  I mean after all.

And I should point out that I have nothing whatsoever to do with Bart's
product, spons*ns, or any other product having to do with any kind of
paddling.  I'm just bugged by double standards.

Skip
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From: Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddling with my Dog - signature files
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:42:44 -0800 (PST)
v> And I should point out that I have nothing whatsoever to do with Bart's
> product, spons*ns, or any other product having to do with any kind of
> paddling.  I'm just bugged by double standards.

It's not a double standard.  It's an unavoidable by-product 
of free email accounts.  In the past, we have discussed the
idea of banning free accounts because of the tacked-on ads.
I agree it's *very* annoying.  But it would be a very quiet
list.  We tried filtering them but it also made for a great
deal more work for the "highly-paid" moderator.

The best your moderator can do is keep it to a minimum which
takes aim at the avoidable posted ad.  And Kirk does an
*excellent* (and sometimes unappreciated) job at that.

Kirk, no apology necessary.  Sometimes they just slip by and
as past moderator, I understand completely.  The list 
usually works on the honor system.  However, I think we should 
reconsider your huge moderator pay increase scheduled for
the end of the year.  :-p

Cheers,

Jackie
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From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddling with my Dog - signature files
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:56:50 -0500
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:42:44AM -0800, Jackie Myers wrote:
> of free email accounts.  In the past, we have discussed the
> idea of banning free accounts because of the tacked-on ads.
> I agree it's *very* annoying.  But it would be a very quiet
> list.  We tried filtering them but it also made for a great
> deal more work for the "highly-paid" moderator.

Let me chime in and mention that it's NOT easy to filter them,
and one reason it's not easy is that the services which insert
them don't want to make it easy: think about it. ;-)

Yes, sometimes it makes for unfortunate juxtapositions.  The
same thing happens with search engines as well: a search
of Google's archive of the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email
will often cause ads promoting the same spamware that's being
vilified, much to the chagrin of those posting the articles.

---Rsk

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