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From: <Blankibr_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Foot Pump through hull
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:13:53 EST
I'm trying to install a foot pump in a VCP Pintail.  There is little  room 
between the footrail and the deck seam (hull to deck) to install the  through 
hull fitting, where the water will be expelled from the boat.
 
Is there a reason people don't install the through hull fitting on the  deck? 
 I'm thinking of placing it as close to the edge as I can and avoid  the 
seam, so water will shoot away from my boat to the side.
 
The other option is to try to reduce the size of the tubing and through  hull 
fitting so it takes less room.  I assume it will take more pressure to  push 
water through the reducer, but since the path is short (but curved like an  S) 
it shouldn't be too hard.  Would that be a problem?
 
How have others solved this dilemma?  I don't want to move the  footrail.
 
Another question if I may:  Why not pick the water up from directly  below 
the foot pump?  I know the seat is the low point, but we are talking  less than 
an inch of drop and I can use a sponge for that.  I see the foot  pump as 
being for mass amounts of water.  Will I be sorry if I do  this?
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Brian Blankinship
From: Mark White <qjktx_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Foot Pump through hull
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:41:39 -0800 (PST)
Brian,

I ran my pump outlet through the deck because of the
same problem you have.  Hasn't caused any problems. 
The pump doesn't shoot water far with ordinary pumping
(although, you can lean the boat, push hard and
"shoot" your paddling partners...).

I built my own strum box from a piece of PVC tubing
and really like it.  I also installed a simple check
valve just above the strum box.  With the strum box I
can easily pump out the water that leaks in when
rolling etc without popping my skirt.

My foot pump is pretty low volume, so when I need to
move lots of water I break out the hand pump.

  - Mark

--- Blankibr_at_aol.com wrote:

> I'm trying to install a foot pump in a VCP Pintail. 
> There is little  room 
> between the footrail and the deck seam (hull to
> deck) to install the  through 
> hull fitting, where the water will be expelled from
> the boat.
>  
> Is there a reason people don't install the through
> hull fitting on the  deck? 
>  I'm thinking of placing it as close to the edge as
> I can and avoid  the 
> seam, so water will shoot away from my boat to the
> side.
>  
> The other option is to try to reduce the size of the
> tubing and through  hull 
> fitting so it takes less room.  I assume it will
> take more pressure to  push 
> water through the reducer, but since the path is
> short (but curved like an  S) 
> it shouldn't be too hard.  Would that be a problem?
>  
> How have others solved this dilemma?  I don't want
> to move the  footrail.
>  
> Another question if I may:  Why not pick the water
> up from directly  below 
> the foot pump?  I know the seat is the low point,
> but we are talking  less than 
> an inch of drop and I can use a sponge for that.  I
> see the foot  pump as 
> being for mass amounts of water.  Will I be sorry if
> I do  this?
>  
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
> Brian Blankinship
From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Foot Pump through hull
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:58:35 -0500
On 23 Dec 2004 at 14:13, Blankibr_at_aol.com wrote:

> Is there a reason people don't install the through hull fitting on the
>  deck? 

I put mine through the deck.  No problems once I put in a check 
valve.  You'll need one to keep water from coming back in.
From: Richard Birdsey <birdseyclan_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Foot Pump through hull
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:26:56 +1100
Hi Brian, I installed a foot pump in my boat exactly the way you are 
thinking about. The pump body is bolted to a false plywood baulkhead 
that sits up against the boat's baulkhead (only need one bolt to hold it 
in place - I hate drilling holes in my boat esp into watertight 
compartments). The inlet valve sticks straight down and a short piece of 
hose extends down to the floor. Didn't bother with a strumm box and 
never had anything jam in the pump in years of abuse. Clearance between 
the floor and the end of the pipe is a few mm so this traps most debris.

The outlet valve comes out of the deck (no pipe at all) and you just 
file the valve flush with the deck (very neat). The water just shoots 
straight up and away.

There is quite a bit of info on pumps and how to install them on the NSW 
Sea Kayak Club website http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/ under the 
knowledge pool. Happy to discuss off line if you need more detail

Richard
Sydney Aust.

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