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From: John Winters <jdwinters_at_eastlink.ca> subject: [Paddlewise] Misc Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 09:28:35 -0400 · This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Thu Aug 21 2025 - 16:33:40 PDT

Rob wrote;
>
> While some of the high performance surf
> kayaks and waveskis can be pretty fast and nimble on a wave, they still
> cannot, and probably never will be able to outperform a surfboard.

> Where is N Schade, M Broze and J Winters when you need them?

What can we do?

Doug wrote:
>
> While I certainly do not agree with all the convictions of John W. and 
> Nick
> S. here on Paddlewise, I do admire their ability not to be intimidated by
> the tyranny of their peers and the insightfulness exhibited in their
> postings. Both these individuals are highly intelligent men, but
> intelligence without courage is certain bankruptcy, so fortunately they 
> lend
> a real richness to the list, as do others like yourself. I certainly offer
> to all of you, a Happy New Year!

Now I am blushing. Thanks for the compliment.

Philip wrote;

> We didn't ride with all the style and control of the boarders, but I do 
> seem to remember we got >way more rides, since we were able to "break out" 
> faster and through bigger waves. Baring >mechanical assistance (boarders 
> sometimes get tows from Jetskis to get out through the really big 
>  >breaks), would you say it's still true that modern surf kayaks and 
> waveskis catch more waves than >boarders?

My surfing friends would say its a matter of quality as well as quantity.

Scott wrote;

> I believe, however, that what gives the boards the edge as far
> as sheer performance is not so much in the design of the craft, but more 
> the
> result of them being able to quickly and radically shift their weight 
> during
> the course of a ride. In the paddlecraft we can attempt to lean some from
> one direction to another, but it's just not quite the same thing.

An opinion echoed by the local surfers who also paddle kayaks. They enjoy 
paddling but for getting their jolt of excitement they much prefer boards.

Anyway, the issue here seems to involve the marketing of paddling rather 
than whose sport provides the most jollies.

I just searched Clusty for Baseball and got 8,294,252 results, Fishing 
returned 8,024,306 results, Surfing 2,838,529 results, Sea Kayaking 797,354 
results, Canoeing 567,910 results and sex 26,125,530 results.

Not sure how that measures popularity but food for thought. Is sex only 9.2 
times more popular than surfing? If so I will go out and buy a board today. 
:-)

Cheers

John Winters
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