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From: Evan Dallas <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddle refinishing -- added weight
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:11:34 -0800
John Winters wrote:

>>>>For example, if you have a paddle that has a blade area of 110 sq.
inches

and coat both sides of each blade you will paint 440 sq. inches or just a

bit under one square foot. According to the information I have International


Interthane weighs about 12.28 lbs per gallon and will coat 800 square feet

per coat. They recommend three coats so you will add about .04605 lbs (

.7368 ounces) (assuming 100% solids)  to the weight of your paddle and all

near the ends which increases the moment of inertia.<<<



John, if I read this correctly, it looks like this may have an arithmetic
mistake.

Since there's 144 square inches in a square foot, then three coats (where
each coat covers 440 square inches) would require 3 x 440 = 1320 square
inches which equals 9.17 square feet.  If the paint weighs 12.28 pounds per
800 square feet, I calculate that 9.17 sq feet would weigh .14 pounds or
2.25 ounces.



Evan Dallas

Woodinville, Washington
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle refinishing -- added weight
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:34:10 -0800
"Evan Dallas" <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com> wrote:

> John, if I read this correctly, it looks like this may have an arithmetic
> mistake.
>
> Since there's 144 square inches in a square foot, then three coats (where
> each coat covers 440 square inches) would require 3 x 440 = 1320 square
> inches which equals 9.17 square feet.  If the paint weighs 12.28 pounds per
> 800 square feet, I calculate that 9.17 sq feet would weigh .14 pounds or
> 2.25 ounces.

While we are fine tuning John's post, I should mention that his calculation 
(as he states) assumes 100% solids, certainly not the case for most 
polyurethane two-part paints.  Probably they run something like 30% VOC, so 
that 2.25 ounces of applied paint probably results in about 1.5 ounces of 
weight after the volatiles have evaporated.

In any case, John's point:

***adding weight to an ultra-lightweight paddle just to restore the gloss is 
a minor folly***

 is well taken here.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
who likes his paddles scratched and dinged 
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From: Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle refinishing -- added weight
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:17:53 -0500
Dave Kruger wrote:
> While we are fine tuning John's post, I should mention that his 
> calculation (as he states) assumes 100% solids, certainly not the case 
> for most polyurethane two-part paints.  Probably they run something like 
> 30% VOC, so that 2.25 ounces of applied paint probably results in about 
> 1.5 ounces of weight after the volatiles have evaporated.
> 
> In any case, John's point:
> 
> ***adding weight to an ultra-lightweight paddle just to restore the 
> gloss is a minor folly***
> 
> is well taken here.

If all...um, who was it who asked the orginal question? Peter?..Peter is 
interested in is getting rid of the scratches for cosmetic reasons, a 
nice coat of wax, well-buffed, would probably help with only tiny extra 
baggage.

-- 
Steve Cramer
Athens, GA
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddle refinishing -- added weight
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:31:39 +1100
Steve wrote,
>If all...um, who was it who asked the orginal question?
>Peter?..Peter is interested in is getting rid of the
>scratches for cosmetic reasons, a nice coat of wax,
>well-buffed, would probably help with only tiny extra
>baggage.

G'Day Steve,

I'm most concerned that the paddle not deteriorate and break. Advice so far
says this is not going to happen. Dave seems to get by with well worn
paddles and John suggests minor surface scratches are not going to hurt.

But re aesthetics. Form follows function! And with equipment if it looks as
if its going to break the engineer in me finds it unattractive. As soon as I
know its not going to break then it suddenly becomes beautiful. This is why
I don't mind scratched boats but worry about scratched paddles, which are
much less robust and take a lot more stress if you're paddling at sea. At
least I've broken more paddles than boats.

Buffing is what I will opt for initially. Touch wood!

All the best, PeterO
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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle refinishing -- added weight
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:49:35 EST
In a message dated 1/17/2005 11:35:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
kdruger_at_pacifier.com writes:

While we  are fine tuning John's post, I should mention that his calculation 
(as he  states) assumes 100% solids, certainly not the case for most 
polyurethane  two-part paints.  Probably they run something like 30% VOC, so 
that  2.25 ounces of applied paint probably results in about 1.5 ounces of  
weight after the volatiles have evaporated.



Put another way:
 
Those evaporative gases become global warming gases and the Ross Icefield  in 
Antarctica breaks open, all for the vanity of Peter's paddle. Shocking!
 
A Very Big Wink,
 
Rob G
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddle refinishing -- added weight
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:50:30 +1100
Rob posed that damning question:
>Those evaporative gases become global warming
>gases and the Ross Icefield in Antarctica breaks
>open, all for the vanity of Peter's paddle. Shocking!

G'Day Rob,

You have gnawed at the strings of my conscience! I'm torn! Whether to buff
or to paint, or accept the beauty of age!

So consider: Does buffing or painting create more greenhouse gas?

I mean just see what happens when you inconsiderately clean up a paddle!
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/media/IcebergC-19.html

All the best, PeterO
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