If you can't piece these links together just search on kayak at: www.sptimes.com The following link contains initial details of a tragic accident in North Florida. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_KAYAKERS_LOST_FLOL-SITE=FLPET&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT I am familiar with this area it is fairly remote, and although the water is shallow, and there is protective cover behind islands and inside bays it can get rough during high winds. Paddling a Canoe in this environment, in even moderate weather is really a bad idea. By Sunday wind gusts were up to 35 knots! Water temperature is the mid 60's, Air temps probably the mid 50's. They probably didn't have any coldwater protective clothing. I was attending the Sweetwater Kayak symposium about 100 miles south this weekend and the weather was nasty. Windy and heavy rain. By Sunday the organizers had to cancel all their morning on-water programs, and this was in a sheltered area. The following is the tour company that organized the trip, with a description of the remote camping they were planning. http://www.orrtreks.com/index2.htm One can only assume they thought the motorized support vessel could handle any problems. Finally the following link from December describes the paddling trail, but its hard to read after learning of these kid's deaths. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/770278951.html?MAC=701c04070003417993fb64b74a14dd5b&did=770278951&FMT=FT&FMTS=FT&date=Dec+23%2C+2004&author=&printformat=&desc=Up+around+the+Bend+Series%3A+PADDLING+THE+TANNIC+SEA --------------- Tim Gamble 917-721-8851 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Here is another link to the same story. As Tim said it was nasty enough. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Kay akers%20Lost Jeff *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I couldn't help but notice that the trip description stressed that, for "easy" paddling, paddlers would not have to carry any gear in their kayaks. I'm sure the kayaks would have been more stable if they had been carrying food and gear. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
As I gather it, two boys in a canoe died. There were also some kayaks on the trip. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There are links to some aditional articles and USCG report at Guillemot forum: http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Technique/indexh.cgi . Seems like guides either didn't have VHF, or distress call wasn't placed in time (one of guides has managed to reach his wife through cell phone, and she called USCG). > As I gather it, two boys in a canoe died. > > There were also some kayaks on the trip. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have just done some fibreglass work inside my Nordkapp, and with a week-long trip starting in a couple of days I want to reduce the smell of cured resin. I will give it a good flush with water once the sanding is complete, and leave the VCP hatch covers off until I go, but any suggestions on speeding the process would be welcome. Cheers JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Try setting some open containers of vinegar in the boat for a few days. It seems to knock out some smell. The bigger the surface area of liquid the better. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kirk-Anderson" <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz> Subject: [Paddlewise] Fibreglass smell > I have just done some fibreglass work inside my Nordkapp, and with a > week-long trip starting in a couple of days I want to reduce the smell of > cured resin. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] No promises - I haven't tried this for resin odours, but a good way to remove odours from Tupperware containers, ect. is an overnight soaking with a solution of baking soda and water. Cheers, Philip John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz> wrote: >I have just done some fibreglass work inside my Nordkapp, and with a >week-long trip starting in a couple of days I want to reduce the smell of >cured resin. > >I will give it a good flush with water once the sanding is complete, and >leave the VCP hatch covers off until I go, but any suggestions on speeding >the process would be welcome. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The resin will out-gas for a long time. The best you can probably do is put the boat in the hot sun with all the hatches open to accelerate the out-gassing. You could also put an old stinky wetsuit in there, it may overpower the resin smell. Nick On Mar 5, 2005, at 12:15 AM, John Kirk-Anderson wrote: > I have just done some fibreglass work inside my Nordkapp, and with a > week-long trip starting in a couple of days I want to reduce the smell > of > cured resin. > > I will give it a good flush with water once the sanding is complete, > and > leave the VCP hatch covers off until I go, but any suggestions on > speeding > the process would be welcome. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
on 6/3/05 11:00, Nick Schade at nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com wrote: You could also put an old stinky wetsuit in there, it may > overpower the resin smell. Good point Nick, my booties could almost be classified as weapons of mass destruction. Luckily we have had a very hot day here, and the boat has been sitting in the sun all day, so that will have to do. Cheers JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John said (snip): >Good point Nick, my booties could almost be classified as weapons of mass >destruction.< Na, your booties aren't weapons of mass destruction - the fact you have been led to believe they are was due to trumped-up intelligence and political expediency. :-) Now, my booties -- those are weapons of mass destruction (verified by UN inspectors). In truth (whatever that is anymore), my wife will not let them in the house anymore (the booties). So, they sit outside all year long, no worries. Not even the bugs will inhabit them - and here in BC, bugs inhabit everything usually. Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 04:46 PM 2/28/2005 -0500, Tim Gamble wrote: >I was attending the Sweetwater Kayak symposium about 100 miles south this >weekend and the weather was nasty. Windy and heavy rain. By Sunday the >organizers had to cancel all their morning on-water programs, and this was >in a sheltered area. Unfortunately this seems to have become a common occurance for the Sweetwater symposium. When I attended a couple of years ago most of the on-water programs ended up getting cancelled near the end of the weekend although it was nice to see that the rescues session still took place and that the weather actually provided more realistic conditions for practicing the self/assisted rescues. I believe I did the 3 star BCU training with you (and Steve Maynard) and the wind was just started to blow pretty good during our assessment. >The following is the tour company that organized the trip, with a >description of the remote camping they were planning. >http://www.orrtreks.com/index2.htm > >One can only assume they thought the motorized support vessel could handle >any problems. > >Finally the following link from December describes the paddling trail, but >its hard to read after learning of these kid's deaths. >http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/770278951.html?MAC=701c04070003417993fb64b74a14dd5b&did=770278951&FMT=FT&FMTS=FT&date=Dec+23%2C+2004&author=&printformat=&desc=Up+around+the+Bend+Series%3A+PADDLING+THE+TANNIC+SEA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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