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From: John Winters <jdwinters_at_eastlink.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Publishing
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:10:30 -0400
OK, I know we aren't supposed to use Paddlewise for commercial promotion so 
I hope this does not cross the line. I won't feel bad if the list guardian 
bounces it back to me.

I want to publish the latest edition of my book but printing costs a lot and 
I have to buy tons of copies to keep in stock. Postage adds to the cost and 
any up-dates ( I would like to add new information as it becomes available) 
mean a person has to buy a new edition or a separate update. So I am 
thinking I should sell the book in PDF format on a CD-ROM. This would reduce 
costs, allow up-dates and additions. Up-dates for example could be sent via 
e-mail.

How would people respond to that? If you have an opinion and don't won't to 
clutter up the list I would be pleased to hear from you off channel.

Cheers

John Winters
jdwinters_at_eastlink.ca 
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From: Keith Wrage <keith.wrage_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Publishing
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:40:38 -0600
My 2 cents (curious what other people feel about this too):
I still like the feel of a book in my hands and a book I can grab off the 
shelf but...I can see the distinct advantages in ePublishing.  Guess it 
would depend on the type of book - a methods/reference book would be OK in 
PDF - a book that I'd want to take on trips or curl up with on a lazy 
Sunday afternoon - put it on paper.

K
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From: Leonhardt, William J <wjleonhardt_at_bnl.gov>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Publishing
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:24:12 -0500
At 08:10 AM 3/24/2005, John Winters wrote:

SNIP
>  So I am thinking I should sell the book in PDF format on a CD-ROM. This 
> would reduce costs, allow up-dates and additions. Up-dates for example 
> could be sent via e-mail.


John,

PDF works fine for me.  I could choose to print it out or not.  I like the 
concept of email updates.  It would be better than my copy of Wolfgang 
Brinck's book.  Currently it is stuffed with email printouts of comments he 
made about book changes/clarifications on the baidarka listserv.

Perhaps you could also sell the PDF file over the web and not have to burn 
the CD.

Bill Leonhardt 
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From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Publishing
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:02:55 -0500
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:10:30AM -0400, John Winters wrote:
> So I am thinking I should sell the book in PDF format on a CD-ROM. This would 
> reduce costs, allow up-dates and additions. Up-dates for example could be 
> sent via e-mail.

CDROM is one distribution method, and it works well for people on
low-bandwidth connections (like me).  But it may further reduce your
costs to just publish the book online.

For instance, "Practical mod_perl" is published here:

	http://modperlbook.org/

If you publish online, you can maintain the "master" copy in
simple, standards-compliant HTML and regenerate the PDF version
periodically using free open-source tools like htmldoc:

	http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc

The idea being that doing this allows you to present the exact
same content in HTML format and PDF format at (nearly) zero effort
and cost.

(Oh -- and updates, which will presumably be much smaller than
the entire book, can be made available for download.  Anyone who
the book on CDROM can just pull them down.  This leaves you with
the choice of either leaving the updates as-is in the oneline copy
or incorporating them and generating a new version of the book,
so that anyone subsequently downloading it gets the newest version.)

The catch is getting paid for it.  And huge amounts of debate have
taken place over which revenue models work and which don't and how
they should be done and how they are done and yadda yadda yadda.
My take, for what it's worth, is that if people appreciate your
work and find it useful, then they'll want to fund it.  On the
other hand, if people are determined to be parasites and not at
least throw a few bucks your way, then there's really no effective
way to stop them.

---Rsk
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Publishing
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:20:46 +1100
John,
>I want to publish the latest edition of my book but printing costs a lot

G'Day John

Good to hear one of your books is on the way.

PDF has the advantage of being copy protectable although copy protection can
be broken if you try hard enough. HTML because its designed to be copied can
be more useful for spreading ideas, but is more easily abused, its also
quicker to download.

Electronic versions of a book need a well thought out search facility to
compete with the ease of indexing in a book. This is particularly important
for PDF formats where decent search engines are often not available.

I'ld be interested in buying the book, especially if its in electronic form.

All the best, PeterO
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Publishing
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:40:46 -0800
John,

I have no problem purchasing books in electronic form. I have done so with
several professional books relating to my work.

I usually print them out myself, but I get them faster and cheaper.

Steve Holtzman
Southern CA 
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