As I read it, the application for the I-68 is for Canadian Boats Landing in the US. If this is the correct interpretation, then what is the reciprocal application for US boats landing in Canada? (I would like to be able to paddle at liberty from Detroit To Windsor without having to physically stop at a port.) Steve Bailey Michigan -----Original Message----- Many of us for many years have paddled in the Thousand Islands and other US-Canadian border areas. The party is over folks! Check out the following press release! Failure to follow the rules has not been indicated, but I bet it won't be pretty! Chuck Sutherland ------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> what is the reciprocal > application for US boats landing in Canada? Fortunately, the Canadians are too nice to reciprocate as they probably should. > (I would like to be able to paddle at liberty from Detroit To Windsor > without having to physically stop at a port.) I suspect you can do that but don't depend on ever coming back. ;~> Michael (who refuses to admit where he is from). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 22 Apr 2005 at 11:46, Steve_at_ECVH wrote: > If this is the correct interpretation, then what is the reciprocal > application for US boats landing in Canada? There has been some discussion in Canadian media on this and other changes being made by the US. Few specific actions have been taken to change existing regulations yet, but there is a strong feeling that many US actions should be matched with a very similar reciprocal action. As the implementation dates for US actions approach, watch for changes in Canadian regulations. One example is the future requirement that all visitors to the US must have a passport, as must returning US citizens. At this time, Canadians and Mexicans on short visits only need to show that they are citizens of their respective countries and returning US citizens can simply show a valid US driver's license. The feeling is that Canada should require US citizens to show their passports to enter Canada - this will actually help ensure they don't leave home without one by mistake :-). Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:42 PM 4/22/2005 -0400, Michael Daly wrote: >On 22 Apr 2005 at 11:46, Steve_at_ECVH wrote: > > > If this is the correct interpretation, then what is the reciprocal > > application for US boats landing in Canada? > >There has been some discussion in Canadian media on this and other >changes being made by the US. Few specific actions have been taken >to change existing regulations yet, but there is a strong feeling >that many US actions should be matched with a very similar reciprocal >action. As the implementation dates for US actions approach, watch >for changes in Canadian regulations. > >One example is the future requirement that all visitors to the US >must have a passport, as must returning US citizens. At this time, >Canadians and Mexicans on short visits only need to show that they >are citizens of their respective countries and returning US citizens >can simply show a valid US driver's license. I also found that you might be grilled by the border agents when entering Canada if you hold a valid US non-driver photo ID card. A few years ago my wife and I took a ferry across the border and when we arrived were asked to present ID I showed my non-driver photo ID (because I didn't have a drivers license) and even though I was sitting in the passenger seat I was asked to explain why I didn't have a drivers license. Then they took my ID (but not my wifes) and ran it through their computer. Twenty minutes later they came back, returned my ID and let us go on our way. They then explained what prompted the additional scrutiny. It turns out that if the reason for not having a valid drivers license is due to a DUI that they will turn you back, and that even someone with a valid drivers license can be turned back if they had a DUI with the past 8 years because a DUI is considered a felony in Canada. I've traveled between the U.S. and Canada a few times since 9/11 and every time the security screening was stricter traveling into Canada than returning to the U.S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"John Fereira" <jaf30_at_cornell.edu> wrote: > I've traveled between the U.S. and Canada a few times since 9/11 and every > time the security screening was stricter traveling into Canada than > returning to the U.S. Same here. In July 2000, the couple traveling behind us in a caravan of sea kayakers (boats atop) got grilled, asked to show proof of solvency (bucks and valid credit card), and their ID scrutinized carefully. Finally, they were asked if they had "ever been asked to leave Canada and never come back ..." The apparent basis for this special treatment was the guy's close similarity in appearance to someone on their list of folks to reject. In 1997, traveling alone in my pickup, full of camping gear, and yak atop, got tossed for weapons ... never knew why, but I suspected it was just a random search. the goofy thing was they never looked in any of the bags or boxes in the bed. They only looked in out-of-the-way spots which someone attempting to conceal might have used. In contrast, every time I come back into the US, the principal concern seems to be illicit fruit, which we always fully acknowledge when they ask. Mind you, I have not made many transits since 9/11. I am scrupulously clean on crossing the US/Canada border, and never waver on anything. Just don't need the hassle. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 22 Apr 2005 at 11:07, Dave Kruger wrote: > "John Fereira" <jaf30_at_cornell.edu> wrote: > > > I've traveled between the U.S. and Canada a few times since 9/11 and > > every time the security screening was stricter traveling into Canada > > than returning to the U.S. > > Same here. I think it depends on where you're from. I get the opposite - Easy return to Canada, but a grilling to get into the US. > I am scrupulously clean on crossing the US/Canada border, and never > waver on anything. Just don't need the hassle. Good advice. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I was stopped way back in 1981 crossing in Central B.C on a climbing trip to the Bugaboos. How long, a month, how much money, $200.00 Canadian (ominous), credit cards? Oh yea, at the time I had 4 or 5 and carried them, bright smile. go on then. I attribute this to the fact there were 2 of us jammed in an old Chevy Vega overloaded with camping gear. Or, the officer could have admired our courage for traveling in that thing in the first place A good ride counts for a lot I guess. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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