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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re: Sospenders PFD
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:06:08 +1000
I use an inflatable pfd, Stormy Seas V100, shown here: 
http://www.stormyaustralia.com/pfd/v100.html
It's more comfortable than any foam pfd I have worn. It doesn't provide 
floatation without inflation, but foam pfd's, at least those known as 
pfd type two and three here, don't hold your head above water. When 
inflated, mine is a pfd type one, which does hold your head above water. 
It can be inflated by mouth or the CO2 cartridge.
I haven't found it impedes practice rescues. If inflated, it aids a 
re-enter and roll.
I had the maker add a few pockets and lash points, so I can get enough 
junk on it.
The CO2 cartridge doesn't need "constant care", just replacing every 
year or so. I rinse the pfd in fresh water after paddling, if possible.
A fellow paddler here suffered a fine surf thrashing over Easter, 
needing a back deck rescue out of large surf. He went out and bought a 
pfd-1 inflatable after that.
Cheers, PT
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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re: Sospenders PFD
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:27:55 EDT
In a message dated 4/27/2005 5:08:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au writes:

I  haven't found it impedes practice rescues. If inflated, it aids a 
re-enter  and roll.
I had the maker add a few pockets and lash points, so I can get  enough 
junk on it.
The CO2 cartridge doesn't need "constant care", just  replacing every 
year or so. I rinse the pfd in fresh water after paddling,  if possible.
A fellow paddler here suffered a fine surf thrashing over  Easter, 
needing a back deck rescue out of large surf. He went out and  bought a 
pfd-1 inflatable after that.



Great thread, as I've found it informative of those who use the inflatables  
regularly chime in on their collective experiences. What was it that made the  
inflatable desirable over a foam pfd in the surf thrashing? I don't like my 
foam  one as it makes it harder to duck under a wave, what was your pal's  
reasoning?
 
Colin wrote: First and foremost foam pfd's all impact on your forward  stroke 
- that's why
marathon/sprint racers choose not to wear them.

There's a pretty good expedition paddler and writer out here in Washington  
State that doesn't wear them, either, once out on the water for that reason. 
You  are correct in that activating it is really a last resort so not the big 
deal I  thought of it initially.
 
I was hoping that our southern contingent would chime in, and Steve did by  
suggesting if 90F/100% humidity were a reason not to paddle with a pfd no one  
would paddle in their climate. Great point, but at latitude 48 I haven't that  
tolerance for heat and humidity ingrained in me that someone from the south  
would paddling in summer. Coming from a Washington winter and dropping 40  
degrees of latitude paddling 20 miles felt like an odyssey. I'm going to invite  
you next time to show us how to suffer even more! ; )
 
I'll have to check into the travelling regs again. Every time I pass the  
security No-No display kiosk they have thiose C02 cartridges at the front of the  
pack. So maybe if it's in a inflatable pfd it won't matter. I wonder? Now,  
lighters are banned from check on AND carry on. So, if you carry an expensive  
windproof model, you'd be better off leaving it at home and buying a bic when  
you get to where you are going.
 
Rob G
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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re: Sospenders PFD
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:25:38 +1000
Rob wrote:
"What was it that made the inflatable desirable over a foam pfd in the 
surf thrashing? I don't like my foam one as it makes it harder to duck 
under a wave, what was your pal's reasoning?"
My friend came out of his boat, was swept out in a rip, and recycled. He 
had a struggle swimming, and tired. I think the reasoning is that while 
uninflated, it's easier to swim with an inflatable than a foam pfd. When 
very tired, and battered by waves, the inflatable can be inflated, and 
you use less energy keeping your head above water.
One downside with inflatables is less body armour when near rocks. The 
advantage of greater comfort in normal forward paddling wins over that 
for me.
Here is the letter from Baltic to airlines: 
http://www.balticlifejackets.com/_pdf/IATA_Dangerous_goods.pdf
Here are the IATA regs in a table for passengers: 
http://www.iata.org/NR/ContentConnector/CS2000/SiteInterface/sites/whatwedo/dangerousgoods/file/Table2.3.AEnglish2005.pdf
(see the top of the second page). It appears inflatables are OK on 
aircraft, subject to the approval of the individual airline.
The last item in the table sets out the position with lighters.
Cheers, PT
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