Peter Rattenbury posted (snip): >For mine, it is tough enough trying to tow someone over any sort of >distance in rough water, without the added bonus of having the strain >clamped around my waist and chest..try it for an hour or two and you'll see >what I mean.< I've done a fair bit of towing over 25 years of paddling. I've never been on a trip with my spouse where I haven't towed at some point in the trip. Most of these tows were avoidable if different sea state/ tidal stream conditions had been chosen, but were not despite knowing the consequences. There is a huge difference between towing someone completely exhausted, towing someone exhausted/hurt in a narrow kayak, and towing someone who is contributing to forward momentum with some paddling evident. Ideally, the person being towed is contributing, which is especially helpful in colder climates where the towee would otherwise be getting cold. Also, the burden of towing dead weight is a significant navigational/physical strain to the tower in a two-paddler scenario. I've towed for long periods of time in a number of scenarios alluded to above, using a number of differing tow systems. I found little or no difference during these interfaces of gear and physicality. However, none of those scenarios developed on open seas or near wave-force type hazardous marine-hydraulics. >I have in mind offshore rescue situations, when either the conditions are >so rough that the towee needs assistance to make forward progress and >survive; perhaps is seasick, perhaps has suffered serious gear failure as >well.< This I have experienced, without the sea sickness, but instead, the towee developing hypothermia, loss of coordination, boat control, and numb hands. It's not fun, and there's no perfect tow system to address each case-by-case tow situation. In this case, it was a long open water crossing, so those who frequently do so should probably have a deck-tow system as a preference, given the physics logically addressed by such rear-deck towing points. One would assume those attempting such crossings would be the variety of paddler to keep a clear rear deck, free from entanglement issues. >I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has towed someone for >HOURS in rough sea, using a body-anchor system. I have only ever towed >people with a deck mounted system and have been glad that the hull anchor >point is taking the strain, not me. Again, a situation at sea is a whole >lot different to a whitewater rescue.< I would be too. I've not encountered too many paddlers than even hint at having to have ever done this, other than guides who tend to be on more sheltered water with their clients and were, as with my spouse, merely assisting with some forward momentum/boat direction correction needs. My own experience with long open water tows (over 6 hours) suggests an integrated PFD tow system lives up to the task, but like any tow system, needs to be re-evaluated during use. The paddler I was towing was able to provide some forward assistance, which generally weakened as the day progressed and the paddler fatigued from hypothermia, though spurts of energy did sometime compensate for the long agony of responsibility. As my boat would crest breaking seas, the 50-foot length behind me allowed the boat being towed to receive full-force breaking seas at a different time, adding a significant tug astern on my tow-rig. I should have shortened to around 30-feet, which would have been psychologically better for the paddler being towed and perhaps allowed a different symmetry with respect to the breaking seas. I do remember previous posts to paddlewise where I've mentioned the drastic need to keep hydrated during long-duration tows, especially where the towee looses the ability to contribute worthwhile effort forward. In most long-tow situations, my impression is it's not necessarily about the gear, but about the paddlers, communication, back-up plans, and the application of intelligence which can be amazingly in short supply when a myopic situation develops. Peter Treby posted: >Some people have mentioned having a jam cleat for quick release of a deck >mounted tow. Is this necessary? It seems easy enough to get slack in a tow >line and unclip a snaplink / carabiner. Has anyone experienced a situation >in which it was necessary to use a quick release?< During the above tow situation, we were eventually rescued through the assistance of a fishing vessel. This required some manoeuvring around the vessel's stabilizers, which eventually wrapped around the long tow line. We were grateful for the quick release. A quick release, or even a slow, "while not-taught" release mechanism would have been a worthwhile mechanism. I think it would also give the towee a feeling of more control, something often lacking with most tow scenarios. The best tow system is, of course, the one you never use. The worse one, is the one you need but don't have. I know a number of paddlers who would have been extremely grateful even for a length of rope at times where they were renting, etc, and didn't or hadn't ever thought they would need a tow line. Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. 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I had planned to stay out of this discussion, but there you go... One thing has become clear from the posts, there is no clear way of towing. Personal preference, regional preference, kayak characteristics, they all have a bearing on what people use and/or carry. I use a body tow as I change kayaks often enough for that to be an issue. I have used boat tows, and they worked very well. I have towed boats through surf (despite the warnings). Not fun, but needed. I have been part of a group (too cunning to do any towing myself!) that involved a full-day rafted tow on the west coast of the Isle of Skye, Scotland, in very lumpy water. A fan tow was tried and didn't work so the rig was changed to in-line. Multiple body tows were used, with no injury. The real questions are: Does it work for you? Try it and find out. Are you comfortable using it? Maybe not physically comfortable, but happy to use it. Is it safe? All systems can be challenged on this. Regarding the questions about a need for quick release, there was, allegedly, a coach in the UK who drowned after becoming snagged during a tow. I am attempting to gather details and will post if successful. Once the posts about towing have dried up, we can start again on skegs v rudders? Let me tell you about my new rudder... JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Erik said: > another correction: didn't you mean to say "while not-taut" - as in > 'not-tight' (as opposed to 'not-educated')? Yeah, not sure how that got by me. My point is in certain tow situations, having a quick release is a must for the person doing the towing, but having a way to release for the person being towed may be useful too. And, the release may be one that only works with some slack in the line, though quick releases at both ends of the line would be even better. For my wife, that would be a great option. During a long crossing where I'm focused on getting us to an arbitrary destination after she's tired out and doesn't want to go any further, she could release herself from the tow line, tell me she doesn't want to get dragged across half the Pacific Ocean, and paddle back to shore and sanity! :-) Doug Lloyd Victoria BC . *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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