Nick wrote originally; >> Primary stability has almost nothing to do with the cross sectional >> shape of a boat. Chines, no chines, makes no difference. It is the >> shape of the water plane and the height of the center of gravity that >> will determine initial stability. This sounded pretty strong to me so I ran some tests of my own and got different results. Nick sent me his data and it revealed that Nick had varied the CG in each test hull. This seemed like a no-no to me. When one wants to determine the effect of one variable the usual practice is to hold all other variables constant especially major variables like CG. Suppose, for example, some one said that increasing waterline beam had no effect on initial stability. Most would laugh because experience tells us something much different. Suppose, however, that this person showed us data revealing no change in initial stability - results he got by changing the CG with each change in beam. I suspect we would quickly point out the error of his ways. Whether one thinks it matters a lot or not is another issue. I suspect that the hard chine and round bilge proponents think it does. There is another issue. On Nick's "V" bottom boat he put the chine below the waterline. At small angles of heel the in and out wedges of volume are the same as the box shaped boat which helps explain why he got little or no difference. In my test I set the chine just above the waterline giving a different righting arm by 5.2%. Most boats will fit some where in between these extremes. More recently Nick wrote; > And as a practical matter most kayaks have fairly similar water plane > shapes, what changes most >significantly is the waterline width. I wondered about that too so I picked out four boats (not completely at random) and found that they had waterplane coefficients that varied from 0.674 to 0.609. Not sure what "fairly similar" means so maybe this much variation doesn't matter. "Fairly" similar sounds a bit "mushy" to me though. Of course beam does have more impact but does that mean you ignore the waterplane? Does any of this matter to paddlers? I don't know because I don't know how accurately paddlers can detect differences in stability. From a design standpoint a boat is composed of many small things as well as a few large things melded together to create a distinct boat. I recall Matt telling me once how he tweaked and tweaked his designs to reach what he considered the right boat. I bet some people would say he was just nit-picking but if you talk to the people who own his boats you will get a much different response. I suspect the same of Nick's boats and their owners. The real question is "Does all this matter here at Paddlewise, in the Nit-picking capital of paddle sport? :-) Cheers John Winters *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sat May 14 2005 - 05:15:58 PDT
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