Did I miss it, or was there no mention of the idea that I was taught: that a kayak will weathercock even when the profile of the boat and paddler above water would suggest that the boat should leehelm. The reason being that the bow is cleaving "still" water and, thus, wants to go straight whereas the stern is moving through perturbed water (the wake) and, therefore, is easily moved to the side. This explains why turning is easier at speed and why my kayak will weather cock in a strong wind even with a large tent bag on the front deck and nothing behind. Is this not correct?? Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
This was described to me, for ww canoeing, as a result of the fact that the bow makes waves, and to turn the bow youhave to lift it over or through those waves. The stern on the other hand is ell between the bow waves and can move back and forth more easily. Hence you initiate a tun from the stern to start breaking through the bow wave, and then add power to the turn from the bow. GaryJ James wrote: > Did I miss it, or was there no mention of the idea that I was taught: > that a kayak will weathercock even when the profile of the boat and > paddler above water would suggest that the boat should leehelm. The > reason being that the bow is cleaving "still" water and, thus, wants to > go straight whereas the stern is moving through perturbed water (the > wake) and, therefore, is easily moved to the side. This explains why > turning is easier at speed and why my kayak will weather cock in a > strong wind even with a large tent bag on the front deck and nothing > behind. > > Is this not correct?? > > > Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gary wrote: - >to turn the bow you have to lift it over or through those waves. >The stern on the other hand is ell between the bow waves and can move back and >forth more easily. Hence you initiate a tun from the stern to start breaking >through the bow wave, and then add power to the turn from the bow. G'Day, Another factor that can lift/slide the bow through the waves is edging the boat. This helps when initiating a turn from the bow, which tends to maintain speed whereas initiating a turn from the rear can slow down a kayak. If you have a rudder and want to initiate a turn from the bow it helps to have crossed the rudder cables under the deck as described by Matt Broze on his web page. http://www.marinerkayaks.com/mkhtml/rudmanuw.htm All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
on 27/9/06 08:44, PeterO at rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au wrote: If you have a rudder and want to initiate a turn from the bow it > helps to have crossed the rudder cables under the deck .. Crossed rudder cables are the only way to go! My only advice is to spend time unlearning/relearning which foot to use to turn, well away from a pod of K1's on a training mission! The resultant capsize was amusing, in retrospect. Cheers JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John Kirk Anderson wrote >My only advice is to spend time unlearning/relearning >which foot to use to turn, well away from a pod of K1's >on a training mission! The resultant capsize was amusing, >in retrospect. G'Day, Very good advice. Bought a ruddered boat the other day (A Mirage). I'd been paddling it without a rudder being leary of paddling a new boat and learning a new technique at the same time. The rudderless boat turned very nicely. But with the rudder fitted it became difficult to do a bow sweep turn just by edging. Then I read Matt Broze' pages, swapped the cables and did beautiful lean turns but at the expense of two days of near misses with rocks, people and ducks. Reckon I'm OK now but people are still staying well clear. It will be a while before I go back to gauntlets and caves in a ruddered boat though. Don't trust my reflexes yet. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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