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From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:07:10 4
This a survey question.

I have two PFDs, one for canoe sailing and one for paddling. The 
PFDs protect my ribs. In one memorable canoe sailing race, I was 
going to windward in a good breeze (16 ft mast, 55 sq ft of sail) and 
leaning hard against the windward rail with my chest. I heard 
something snap and thought the buckle on my pfd had cracked. It 
was one of my ribs. 

My sailing pfd is long in the back, reaching nearly to my belt. This 
allows me to slide out on the rail with my back to the rail on the 
padding of the PFD. Before I found this particular jacket, the hard 
wood rail was eating me alive. I am too heavy to sit on the rail. If 
the wind lets up suddenly, it's over we go. I keep a horn tied to this 
jacket.

For paddling, I have a more standard type of jacket with a small net 
pocket on the front. My noseclips are attached to the jacket on a 
lanyard, and the clips themselves are kept in the pocket. I have a 
loud horn attached to the pfd on a lanyard. I have nothing else 
attached to the jacket.

What other items do you have attached to your PFD? How are 
those items attached? Did you have to sew attachments on the 
jackets for such gear?

Happy holidays folks!

Chuck Sutherland
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:21:12 -0800
> What other items do you have attached to your PFD? How are 
> those items attached? Did you have to sew attachments on the 
> jackets for such gear?
> 

I wear a Kokatat Pro Guide rescue pfd. It has two pockets in the front. In
the right hand pocket is my Icom M72 VHF tethered by its lanyard to a small
d-ring inside the pocket.

In my left pocket is a "Storm" whistle, nose clips, and a signal mirror -
all of which are tethered to a d-ring inside of that pocket. Nothing else is
attached to my vest.

Attached to the waist belt is a Northwater 17' tow line for short or quick
tows and a 25 foot extension is in my day hatch. My other safety and repair
gear is kept in a dry "bail-out" bag in my day hatch.

Steve Holtzman
Southern California
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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:48:02 -0600 (CST)
I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in them on
wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
*
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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:48:03 -0600 (CST)
I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in them on
wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
*
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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:48:00 -0600 (CST)
I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in them on
wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
*
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From: <rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:02:39 -0500
[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply
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this post was modified to meet policy]

I forgot that bit, I also carry a Kestrel 2500 anemometer and barometer 
thingy.

Rob G
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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:14:41 -0600 (CST)
Sorry about that. I was editing the message when it decided to send itself
-- thrice. Here is (I hope) the complete message:

I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation, comfort, and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in
them on wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
* Waterproof pen and notebook. The pen fits under a strap I sewed inside
the pocket.
* Icom M72 VHF radio. Normally I carry the radio just under the cover of
my day hatch, but when I'm in conditions where I might have to make an
emergency or other call, I move it to this pocket or to the foredeck.

Bottom right pocket:
* Silva Type 3 orienteering compass, looped through D-ring.
* Minimum-registering thermometer, looped to strap on the side of the PFD
to make it easier to reach the water.
* Never-used Gerber River Shorty knife, fastened by a cord to the same
strap, there being no accessory patches on the PFD.
* Zip-Loc bags holding a cleaning cloth for my sunglasses and spare
reading glasses for maps (the sunglasses have removeable reading lenses
for the same purpose).

Left shoulder:
* Princeton Tech strobe light, fastened by a Velcro strap which is held in
place by a short strap I sewed on the underside of the PFD's shoulder
strap. The drinking tube also goes through the Velcro loop.

If you add a pocket, it will be filled.

Chuck Holst
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From: Wayne Smith <wsmith16_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:16:59 -0500
I have a Kokatat OutFit Pfd for paddling. I have reflective epaulets on 
the shoulders, a strobe attached to the lash tab on the left rear, a 
river knife and sheath attached to the front lash tab, a breath powered 
air horn and a storm whistle corded to a D ring in the left front 
pocket, a signal mirror corded to a D ring in the pocket under the left 
front, and also foam earplugs in same pocket.

I have noseplugs corded to the zipper pull, and usually a camera in the 
right front pocket that is corded to a D ring. Right front pocket is for 
discretionary stuff, as is the pocket on my sprayskirt, which usually 
holds waterproof binoculars and spare sunglasses, or a GPS, or other 
such stuff appropriate to the day in question.

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wsmith16_at_charter.net

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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:48:00 -0600 (CST)
I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in them on
wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
*
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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:48:02 -0600 (CST)
I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in them on
wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
*
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From: <rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:35:29 -0500
I have a small attachable kokatat pocket on back that I keep a liter of 
water in with a drink tube. My bagged vhf goes in there, too. on my 
left shoulder is a ptech strobe and forward of that is my whistle. In 
my left pocket is a greatland laser, a 3 AAA cell LED flashlight, 
Lendal Key and a Silva 7P compass. I'm a knife on the vest guy and it 
is under the whistle. The right pocket has an energy bar, nose clips, 
small mirror, sunscreen and lip balm and a couple nicorettes. In the 
center pocket is a small chinagraph pencil and a small Ortlieb roll top 
drybag that has 2 ea 4" x 6" gutter seam tape patches, a pencil flare 
launcher and 3 flares, a h2oproof match container with tums and tylenol 
a small packet of waterproof bandaids. Also there is a swatch of duct 
tape rolled flat on a piece of plastic. There is also room in there for 
a film can with some 2 part epoxy putty.That dry bag is only an inch 
and 3/4s thick, six inches tall and 3 inches wide. I have a small 
detachable camera case where my Pentax Optio goes on the right shoulder 
tab. The vest is a Kokatat MsFit. My tow line is of my own making, 
waste belt syle, with 45 feet of line daisy chained to 17 and in the 
back kokatat pocket I still keep 15 feet of an extension. I keep a 
secondary vest for whitewater and surfing, where I don't need much of 
the above.

Cheers,

Rob G

-----Original Message-----
From: skimmer_at_enter.net
Subject: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?

   This a survey question.

What other items do you have attached to your PFD? How are
those items attached? Did you have to sew attachments on the
jackets for such gear?
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From: <kayakwriter_at_aim.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:52:25 -0500
 I have a VHF in a waterproof baggie in PFD one pocket, lanyarded around the shoulder webbing so it won't get lost overboard. The other pocket holds my keys (clipped to a sewn-in key clip) and three Skyblazer flares. A knife in a sheath is clipped to the webbing above this pocket. Velcroed to the shoulder webbing on this side is a case for my waterproof digicam - which is also lanyarded to the PFD to prevent loss overboard in use. I've got a single AA battery strobe attached to the other shoulder. Joining these shoulder mounted items this season will be a tiny Geko GPS in a waterproof Aquapac (my christmas present to myself). It will serve both as a back-up to the main GPS which rides in front of the cockpit, and to let me give my position to rescuers should I need to use the VHF and be seperated from my boat.
 On solo trips and long crossing, I velcro a custom pocket to the webbing laddering on the back of my PFD. It holds a Sea Seat (no longer made, it's essentialy an orally inflated one person liferaft you sit in bean-bag style.) My thinking is if I'm seperated from my boat, the Sea Seat will increase my survival time by keeping my mostly out the the water (I do wear a wetsuit as well, and carry a space blanket). It will make me more visible, being big, yellow, and higher in the water than I would be alone. It will also increase the effectiveness of my flares by letting me see better when other boats are in sight, and increase the range of my radio by tranmitting slightly above the water, not in it.
 
 Philip
 
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: skimmer_at_enter.net
 To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net
 Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:07:10 4
 Subject: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
 
  This a survey question.

SNIP

What other items do you have attached to your PFD? How are 
those items attached? Did you have to sew attachments on the 
jackets for such gear?


   
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:56:21 +1100
Chuck wrote: -
>What other items do you have attached to your PFD? How are
>those items attached? Did you have to sew attachments on the
>jackets for such gear?

G'Day,

KOKATAT PFD
RH pocket:
	Towrope
LH pocket:
	Toffees-jelly beans for last resort use (I get ~ 1km per
	two toffees on rare occasions when I truly hit the wall,
	mostly the family get to eat them when I return home)
Top RH pocket:
	Nose clip and whistle both on a line
LH side of Jacket
	Knife with blunt tip on a line, in sheath with lock
In large pocket on back of PFD
	Pack of 10 miniflares and EPIRB, both in water proof bag on a line

CAG zip pocket
	Car Key and $20 note

I'm considering carrying water on long trips but alternatively figure that
connecting myself to the boat with a line might be just as effective (it
would be unclipped well before landings).

All the best, PeterO
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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What's on ur PFD?
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:14:41 -0600 (CST)
Sorry about that. I was editing the message when it decided to send itself
-- thrice. Here is (I hope) the complete message:

I have a Palm 5-pocket PFD. It isn't CG-approved in the U.S., but it does
have high flotation, comfort, and lots of pockets. Here's what I carry in
them on wilderness trips:

Rear pocket:
* Folded orange plastic survival bag.
* Platypus hydration bag -- very handy when paddling into the wind, as I
don't have to stop paddling to drink.
* Three emergency flares in a sealed Seal-a-Meal bag, which is attached to
a lanyard so I can pull it out by reaching over my shoulder.

Top left pocket:
* Detachable spare car key fastened to the D-ring in the pocket.
* Ear plugs in a small polyethylene container, mostly for rolling practice.
* Black grease pen for marking chart covers.
* Clip for Platypus tube (fastened to edge of pocket).

Top right pocket:
* Signal mirror in Zip-loc bag (to protect the surface), fastened to D-ring.
* Safety leash tied to D-ring, other end tied to a mini-carabiner, for
clipping to the strap on my Nikonos camera, which does not float.
* Kestrel wind meter, also fastened to the D-ring.

Bottom left pocket:
* Waterproof pen and notebook. The pen fits under a strap I sewed inside
the pocket.
* Icom M72 VHF radio. Normally I carry the radio just under the cover of
my day hatch, but when I'm in conditions where I might have to make an
emergency or other call, I move it to this pocket or to the foredeck.

Bottom right pocket:
* Silva Type 3 orienteering compass, looped through D-ring.
* Minimum-registering thermometer, looped to strap on the side of the PFD
to make it easier to reach the water.
* Never-used Gerber River Shorty knife, fastened by a cord to the same
strap, there being no accessory patches on the PFD.
* Zip-Loc bags holding a cleaning cloth for my sunglasses and spare
reading glasses for maps (the sunglasses have removeable reading lenses
for the same purpose).

Left shoulder:
* Princeton Tech strobe light, fastened by a Velcro strap which is held in
place by a short strap I sewed on the underside of the PFD's shoulder
strap. The drinking tube also goes through the Velcro loop.

If you add a pocket, it will be filled.

Chuck Holst
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