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From: Mark Arnold <mjamja_at_earthlink.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Towing behind sailboat
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:24:57 -0600
Does anyone have any experience towing kayaks behind a sailboat.   My cousin has a Menger Catboat that is about 10ft wide.   He usually travels about 5 mph either by sail or diesel engine.  I would prefer to tow my 2 touring kayaks rather than try to borrow some SOT's.      I would appreciate any do's or don'ts' so I do not have to learn things the hard way.


Mark J. Arnold
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From: Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Towing behind sailboat
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:47:29 -0800
Mark Arnold wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience towing kayaks behind a sailboat.   
>

 From Wavelength March 2005 -
http://www.wavelengthmagazine.com/2005/fm05primer.php

"Kayaks do not tow well. They tend to surf a boat's wake, go broadside 
and flip. Two kayaks will tow better than one if they are lashed 
together at the bow and stern, creating a catamaran shape. The best plan 
for towing is to put them inside your dinghy if you don't have enough 
room on the deck."

 From rec.boats.paddle (lots of warnings):
Towing with a sailboat
http://tinyurl.com/2a9zna

Towing kayak behind sailboat in ocean
http://tinyurl.com/yvblrd

Towing a sea kayaking behind a power boat
http://tinyurl.com/23lo3j

But if you check with sailors and power boaters, this is what you get:

About 50 kayaks being towed behind a houseboat, includes a couple of 
paddling pooches - this is not something I'd care to do (warning - 
website accompanied by loud, goofy music):
http://www.rvsingles.org/Photo_Albums/Sharon/Sharon_1.htm

Seven or so kayaks towed by a large boat with single outrigger
http://www.raftvoyagers.com/Mirage_with_kayaks_in_tow.jpg

Three kayaks towed by a junk?
http://highway57.co.uk/seasia/photo?res=lo&picid=2356&secid=143

Several kayaks being towed at a fairly good clip
http://www.gallantphotography.com/040127_antarctica/040201_184_thm.jpg

More
http://www.whalepass.com/news/wp-content/photos/thumb_kayak_tow2.jpg

We've towed a dinghy without any problems.  On one occasion, we had wind 
and chop but very little water in the dinghy when we reached our 
destination. 

http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/jmsailing/Lake%20Mead%2005/?action=view&current=DSC03433.jpg

I wouldn't hesitate to do as was suggested in the WaveLength article... 
lash bows and sterns together and tow as a cat.  It would depend on 
where and conditions, though.  Also, make sure everything is securely 
attached and watch lines if you are turning any props.

Jackie
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Towing behind sailboat
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:22:29 -0800
Mark Arnold wrote:

>> Does anyone have any experience towing kayaks behind a sailboat.

Not a sailboat, no; behind a houseboat at 6 knots on the ICW, yes.  We
watched the short double like a hawk, and made sure it rode in a spot in
the wake where turning turtle was not likely.  It was nerve-wracking as 
hell.  We hoped that the towline would part if it did, before the boat got 
destroyed by the forces.  I would not tow at a greater speed, and I would 
not tow on exposed waters.  Even the 2-3-foot chop on the ICW presented 
some challenges.  Not to mention the occasional boat wake from a power cruiser.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Robert Livingston <bearboat2_at_comcast.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Towing behind sailboat
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:06:30 -0800
As has been stated kayaks do not tow well.

The situation is worsened by the fact that people are towing from a  
high position on the bow of the kayak where the toggle is.

Towing (and tying down on a car rack) can be improved by putting a  
towing attachment about an inch or 2 above the waterline. (You might  
drill through the kayak at that point and fiberglass a tube that can  
accept a rope across the holes created)

I think that this might have an advantage towing a disabled paddler  
from another kayak as well. Some of my  kayaks have relatively high  
bows and I noticed when towing someone last summer who was using one  
of these kayaks that I was nervous about torquing the kayak over when  
a wave caught the towed kayak and pushed the bow off line.

It can also help when towing to put a heavy weight at the stern of  
the towed kayak to help life the bow.
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From: Gary J. MacDonald <garyj_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Towing behind sailboat
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:06:03 -0500
I didn't check the photo links provided, to see what worked for them, 
but I would suggest towing as you would a canoe:  with a bridle so that 
the force is applied from a point below the keel, a few feet back, with 
the lines running up to both sides of the deck rigging a couple of feet 
further back, thus holding the bow in the air and unlikely to turn over. 
 Towing with a straight line is not so good.

GaryJ

Mark Arnold wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience towing kayaks behind a sailboat.   My cousin has a Menger Catboat that is about 10ft wide.   He usually travels about 5 mph either by sail or diesel engine.  I would prefer to tow my 2 touring kayaks rather than try to borrow some SOT's.      I would appreciate any do's or don'ts' so I do not have to learn things the hard way.
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