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From: John Winters <jdwinters_at_eastlink.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Baidarka thoughts
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:17:25 -0400
Doug Lloyd  wrote:
>I was  wondering if anyone has experience with the differential between the
>reported fast speed of a  planning baidarka hull and that of a more typical
> Greenland SOF.

Has anyone documented that these boats could plane? I have Dyson's video and 
it is clear that the boat in question did not plane even when paddled by an 
Olympic paddler.

Equally important, do kayak people have a different definition of planing 
from that used by naval architects. If they do (and it has been suggested on 
this list in the past that paddlers have their own idea of what planing is) 
then what is it?

Finally, in my studies of Inuit kayaks none of the Aleut kayaks studied have 
as low resistance at speeds above 5 knots as the best of the Greenland 
kayaks. Equally interesting is that modern Olympic kayaks have lower 
resistance than either native type and yet no claims of planing.

Cheers

John Winters 
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From: Nick Schade <nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Baidarka thoughts
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:58:33 -0400
For those who want to see some of the video you can check http:// 
www.pbs.org/saf/previous/watchonline203.htm
Nick


On Mar 10, 2007, at 7:17 AM, John Winters wrote:

> Doug Lloyd  wrote:
>> I was  wondering if anyone has experience with the differential  
>> between the
>> reported fast speed of a  planning baidarka hull and that of a  
>> more typical
>> Greenland SOF.
>
> Has anyone documented that these boats could plane? I have Dyson's  
> video and it is clear that the boat in question did not plane even  
> when paddled by an Olympic paddler.

Nick Schade

Guillemot Kayaks
824 Thompson St
Glastonbury, CT 06033
USA
Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Baidarka thoughts
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:43:02 -0700
Nick Schade wrote:
> For those who want to see some of the video you can check 
> http://www.pbs.org/saf/previous/watchonline203.htm
> Nick

Thanks.  Despite the narration to the contrary, Greg Barton is not able to 
make the baidarka plane on flatwaster.  Not having seen the video before, I 
was in the dark.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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