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From: Elias Ross <generic_elias_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re : Ch 16 and DSC - Illegal made Legal
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
By the way, has anybody out there been caught and fined for operating a VHF
radio without a license in Canada or the U.S.?  I'd just as soon be fined
than support some inane bureaucracy which was designed for a different class
of watercraft.



 
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re : Ch 16 and DSC - Illegal made Legal
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:33:09 -0700
Elias Ross wrote:
> By the way, has anybody out there been caught and fined for operating a VHF
> radio without a license in Canada or the U.S.?  I'd just as soon be fined
> than support some inane bureaucracy which was designed for a different class
> of watercraft.

Elias, I'm legal in both Canada and the US, because I got my first VHF unit 
back in early 1996, just before the FCC removed the licensing requirement 
for _pleasure_ boaters.  An FCC license is required by law for a US boater, 
in his/her own craft, to broadcast on the marine VHF band in Canada.  You 
do not need a license to use your VHF in the US, any more.

However, enforcement and monitoring of licensing requirements is nil or 
minimal in remote areas of the BC coast.  In ten seasons of active paddling 
there (west coast of Vancouver Island, Gulf Islands, Queen Charlottes), I 
have never been checked or asked if I had a VHF by anyone.  I have chatted 
with CCG personnel on the water, VHF visible on my PFD, and they never 
asked about it.  I have never heard of any sea kayaker who was checked. 
And, I used my VHF (from the beach) to contact the CCG to help some other 
kayakers chase down some overdue companions.  This exchange went on for 
half an hour of transmissions before the lost paddlers were found.  They 
never asked me if I had a license or if I had call numbers, and were simply 
grateful I had a VHF and knew how to use it.

In a busy harbour, you might get checked, but if you do not abuse the 
marine band (e.g., you only use 16 for hailing, and move your subsequent 
discussion with others to an approved channel), I do not believe you will 
have a problem.

Please note using the marine VHF band in Canada without a license is 
illegal, and that I am not advocating any illegal activity.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re : Ch 16 and DSC - Illegal made Legal
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:47:58 -0400
Elias Ross wrote:
> By the way, has anybody out there been caught and fined for operating a VHF
> radio without a license in Canada or the U.S.? 

You don't need a license to operate a marine VHF in the US for 
recreational boating.


> I'd just as soon be fined
> than support some inane bureaucracy which was designed for a different class
> of watercraft.

That inane bureaucracy maintains radio frequencies in Canada that can be 
used reliably for the safety and security of all watercraft.  Without 
it, the marine VHF frequencies would be no better than CB radio.

If you don't like it, just remember that no one is forcing you to get a 
marine VHF radio.


Mike
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From: John Horrell <seajohnkayak_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re : Ch 16 and DSC - Illegal made Legal
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:07:42 -0700 (PDT)
Elias,
  I have carried a VHF Marine radio in my PFD for some ten years now here in the US and in Gulfo de California. I've never been stopped or inspected. A few hand waves from USCG and US Park Service as the "flew" by in their power boats. 
  Never had to use Channel 16/9. Occasionally the CG will come on for a quick communicaiton. 
  The weather channel has been a useful feature.
  As a group we have used the VHF upper end channels for minimal group communication and to monitor local communication and ship communicaiton so we can stay out of the way of the big boats.
  I generally paddle bays, esteros and coast waters. I carry the radio as part of my safety gear along with a whistle, strobe, mirror (rafting guide days) and some hand held flares and rockets and my cell phone.
  Never been stopped - never fined.
   
  John
  Santa Rosa, CA
  Arluk III
  Tofino
  LongHaul MK1
    

Elias Ross <generic_elias_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

  By the way, has anybody out there been caught and fined for operating a VHF
radio without a license in Canada or the U.S.? I'd just as soon be fined
than support some inane bureaucracy which was designed for a different class
of watercraft.




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