Re: [Paddlewise] [PaddleWise] Pump my ride

From: Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:52:57 +0200
On Thursday 19 April 2007 05:08, PaddleWise wrote:
> Based on the photo of your battery pack, it looks like you are running a
> 12 volt pump with a less than eight volt power pack. That will greatly
> reduce the pump capacity.  The pump will probably take normal 12 volt
> lead acid battery voltage of 14.4 volts without burnout problems.
> Increasing your power supply voltage will have more effect on the pump
> flow rate than marginal increases in flow due to changes in flow
> resistance in the hose and outlet fittings.

But beware that as the voltage go up, the amps skyrocket, 
not necessarily improving the pump volume per battery set,
but sure improving pump capacity per minute! 

I have spent lots of $$$ and time on playing around with
electric power and propellers, as I was quite early in that
part of airplane modelling - nowadays its the norm! So I
know my rechargable batteries!

SLAs and othe lead acid batteries are great on amps, with fairly
constant efficiency over time, while NiCDs and NiMHs are easy to
overheat, unless you keep the amps down, or cool them well!
Heat-losses are an effect of amps, squared, so you'd want low 
amps and high voltage! For bilge pumps I think Li-ion batteries 
would be ideal, as they don't discharge over time nearly as fast 
as other types, including lead-acids.

Our first try was with one of those textile hoses that flatten itself when 
not in use - like those used by firemen - and that resulted in that
the pump didn't get enough water to start sucking (in essence it
just tried to compress air, very inefficiently). Using a full size
rigid hose, would have taken much space, and created transport 
problems as we're using Kleppers, thus have to demount the
installation each time, so next best proved to be inserting a
thin rigid hose inside the textile hose! Looks weird works well,
as then the air always can be pushed away from the pump house,
and when that happens it goes into top gear! The flowrate is
almost up to par with a rigid hose, and easier to handle!

Tord
***************************************************************************
PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed
here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire
responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author.
Submissions:     PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net
Subscriptions:   PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net
Website:         http://www.paddlewise.net/
***************************************************************************
Received on Thu Apr 19 2007 - 11:49:33 PDT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Thu Aug 21 2025 - 16:31:24 PDT