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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Navigation Skills (was: another incident in fiordland)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:01:27 -0400
On 4/20/07, Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu> wrote:
     Here the GPS failed as darkness approached,
     and they didn't handle map and compass very well,
     driving around in circles in what could be called
     a rock garden :-(!

     So keep your manual navigation skills up!


When I was working aboard tankers along the eastern seaboard of the USA I
remember hearing about an incident involving a cabin cruiser that
illustrates this point well.

The cabin cruiser was out in the late afternoon along the western shore of
Long Island. However the captain overstayed his cruise and by the time he
wanted to go home it was too dark to make out the features of the land
around his harbor entrance. He called the harbormaster on VHF who said that
they were busy with an emergency and told him to go to the "sea buoy" and
wait for someone to come out and lead him in.

The cabin cruiser instead hailed a passing sailboat and asked for
assistance. The skipper of the sailboat got on SSB, contacted USCG and
relayed to the skipper of the cabin cruiser to return to the  buoy off his
harbor entrance and wait for assistance.

By this time it was fully dark but the cabin cruiser skipper saw another
vessel and motored over to ask, yet again, for help. This time it was a
commercial tugboat which relayed a call to the USCG (again) on VHF. The
cabin cruiser was directed to return to the sea buoy and wait for
assistance.

At this point the captain of the tugboat turned one of his spotlights to
show the skipper of the cabin cruiser that he had a barge in close tow and
not, under any circumstances, to allow his vessel to come between the tug
and its tow.

In response, the skipper of the cabin cruiser put his boat in reverse and
backed directly into the path of the barge which sank the cruiser.

I don't recall much of the rest; only that the skipper of the cabin cruiser
survived and was questioned by someone about his knowledge of navigation.
One of his responses stuck in my mind: he thought that there were 270
degrees in a circle. I also recall that this cabin cruiser was very well
equipped including radar but that something had crippled his electrical
system.

There are many, many boaters out there who think that a good backup to GPS
is a second GPS and that you can find your way to Hawaii by following the
jet contrails. I always treated my electronic navigational aids as a backup
to my ability to navigate and operate a vessel safely. The cabin cruiser
story - whcih might be apocryphal - drew my attention because it illustrated
so well the thinking of a lot of boaters.


Craig Jungers
Royal City, WA
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From: Gary J. MacDonald <garyj_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Navigation Skills (was: another incident in fiordland)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:27:15 -0400
Craig Jungers wrote:

>...and that you can find your way to Hawaii by following the
>jet contrails. 
>
Thanks for the tip!
:-D    :-D    :-D
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Navigation Skills (was: another incident in fiordland)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:25:13 -0700
Craig's hoary story reminded me of this true-life account of a sideswipe of 
a USCG buoy tender by a container ship: 
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/1999/MAB9901.htm  There is an old phrase used 
by folks in the US Navy for this sort of thing.  Kinda escapes me at the 
moment.  I think it starts with clutch or something ... [grin]

The skip at fault got royally roasted.  Don't know if he is still piloting. 
  As a sometime paddler who relies on freighters to remain in the Columbia 
River navigation channel, this incident has particular pertinence to me.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Tony <tony_at_tesar-reynes.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Navigation Skills (was: another incident in fiordland)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:27:34 -0600
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Craig,

I am sure that we all have stories. My personal favorite dealt with bringing
a big sloop across Lake Erie from the Welland Canal to the Cleveland area in
the 1970's. As the day progressed, a following breeze developed, we set the
spinnaker, and tore down the lake. The wind continued to freshen, we went
faster and decided to go past our original goal. The sun started to sink in
the west and I, as navigator, gave the distance and bearing to a harbor
entrance. Little did I know that the owner's son had been playing with that
nav system and done a couple of resets. We were NOT where we were supposed
to be.

As it got dark, I realized that the Loran was useless and the DRT that I had
run had some bad data. In the course of the next 20 minutes I revised our
track and used a portable radio to rdf some commercial stations and
developed a new fix. As we neared shore and could id some lights, I was
relieved to see that I got us into harbor...and I knew which one! 

Best Regards,

Tony Reynes




-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Jungers

The cabin cruiser was out in the late afternoon along the western shore of
Long Island. However the captain overstayed his cruise and by the time he
wanted to go home it was too dark to make out the features of the land
around his harbor entrance....
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