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From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Biddeford capsizes
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:02:08 4
Before knowing the answer, let me guess! Here we had two 
kayakers that we assume had some level of kayaking skill. Both 
men capsized. It seems a little odd that both went over and failed 
to roll. It appears they didn't have radios.

I bet both paddlers were using proper short "go fast" paddles so as 
to get there really fast with the least amount of effort.

Chuck Sutherland
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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Biddeford capsizes
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:17:52 -0400
Or they could have been hit by a rogue wave, as was hinted at by the
article that Nick referenced.  Rogue waves are not uncommon on the coast
of Maine.  I personally know one person who almost died after being
pummeled by a rogue wave while walking the beach an hour or so north of
Biddeford.

I've paddled around the Biddeford rocks.  There are some
nasty/entertaining water conditions in the area, I could easily see two
people going in at the same time. 

Waiting for the incident report (if one ever comes out) is worthwhile.

Blaming "go fast paddles" is pointless.


On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:02:08 +0000, "skimmer" <skimmer_at_enter.net> said:
> Before knowing the answer, let me guess! Here we had two 
> kayakers that we assume had some level of kayaking skill. Both 
> men capsized. It seems a little odd that both went over and failed 
> to roll. It appears they didn't have radios.
> 
> I bet both paddlers were using proper short "go fast" paddles so as 
> to get there really fast with the least amount of effort.

-- 
  Kirk Olsen
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From: Turner Wilson <turner_at_kayakways.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Biddeford capsizes
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:28:05 -0400
Kirk,

Google Earth reveals some interesting looking terrain. I am sure, in
conditions.

Wood Island is here:

  43027'20.23"N
  70020'0.02"W

Biddeford Pool is due west.

A little digging at local weather conditions reveal:
Clear skies, visibility 10 miles, 10 knot East Wind, High tide around
4:20 PM. Air temp was unusually warm Tuesday afternoon at 80 degrees.

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I did find this juxtaposition of facts and quotes from the article a
bit disconcerting, if accurate.

1) 6:30 PM, 5' seas, 44 degree water

2) "Both kayakers were equipped with life jackets and strobe lights.
Andrusic also wore a dry suit and Gutmann wore a short wet suit"

3) "Both Gutmann and Andrusic had years of kayaking experience and
their gear was appropriate for cold-water paddling, according to
Marine Patrol Sgt. Rick LaFlamme."

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I wouldn't be wearing a shorty in this circumstance.

The early signs are VHF radios would have been good to have along.

And the Marine Sgt. needs a refresher on immersion gear.
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