Paddlewise paddling people: My wife would like me to add a rudder to her kayak. There is currently no hardware for mounting one. I'm trying to decide between doing an end poor and bolting on a rudder, such as this model: http://secure.seawardkayaks.com/ecbuilder/item177.htm My other option is to get a universal bracket and add a pin-type rudder, such as these two products: http://www.bearmountainboats.com/onlinestore/popup_image.php?pID=102&osCsid=eccb6280eb30daf2ffb0d5b38c100b4b http://secure.seawardkayaks.com/ecbuilder/item170.htm It also begs the question as to which rudder mounting scenario presents the least amount of drag in terms of the actual mounting hardware - not the rudder. The bolt on Seaward rudder depicted in my first option, while obviously the strongest, may impose less hydrodynamic efficiency due to the drag the mounting hardware presents to the water and the bulkier design. Anyone have experience between the two? Doug Lloyd (who's wife is rudderless in Victoria) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug Lloyd wrote: > My wife would like me to add a rudder to her kayak. There is currently > no hardware for mounting one. I'm trying to decide between doing an end > poor and bolting on a rudder, such as this model: Doug, Don't see much difference in drag whichever way you go. The end pour method demands a hole all the way through the yak, doesn't it? And the bolt-on method makes use of whatever structure there is in the stern. It might hinge on how much there is back there currently. If not much, then you'll have to do at least a small end pour to give the bolts something to go through. I would not trust a rudder mounting to bolts held only by the skin of the boat. After that, I suspect other aspects of the rudder might be determining. I like the Feathercaft rudder for reliable deployment and trouble-free operation, but have no experience with the Seaward models. They might be as good, or better. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I like the Feathercaft rudder for reliable > deployment and trouble-free operation, but have no experience with the > Seaward models. They might be as good, or better. They are very similar. Both are good. In FC the length of the pin is a limiting factor - it will be difficult to replace with a longer one. Seaward is using a regular 1/4" bolt, which can be made shorter or longer if needed. Good thing about FC is that their baldes are hydrofoils, whle Seaward is a plain aliminum sheet (anodized black), and this may cause some difference in drag. I also think that FC has a shorter gap between the upper and lower hinge, than Seaward (which means that the latter will furrow the water more often) - can't tell for sure, as Seaward is stored far from my place. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I while back, I saw one good reason to do a heavy duty end pour. A guy had done that on his kayak, then drilled a hole straight through horizontally. He used the hole to run an axle through for wheels for a built in cart. I assumed he took them off to paddle, but just think of riding a wave and doing a 'wheelie' onto a beach! Take that, Tsunami Rangers!!! Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Doug Lloyd > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:35 PM > To: paddlewise > Subject: [Paddlewise] Rudder mounting > > > Paddlewise paddling people: > > My wife would like me to add a rudder to her kayak. There is currently no > hardware for mounting one. I'm trying to decide between doing an end poor > and bolting on a rudder, such as this model: *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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