RE: [Paddlewise] Re: CO2 output

From: <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:53:13 +0000
Mike wrote: - 
>resource price at the wellhead is zero - 
>no one pays Mother Earth 

Peter Chopelas wrote: - 
>The lower the purchase and ownership costs, 
>the less the resources consumed. This should 
>also correspond to a lower carbon "foot print". 

G'day, 

The following will prove that I'm neither an economist or a Life Cycle analyst:~) 

The sort of approaches you both suggest are similar to one I've tried that subtracts profit margins and wages (including taxes) from every part of a product's value chain and then makes the assumption that "no-one pays mother earth" and that all infrastructure and material costs are ultimately spent on energy. 

Of course this assumption can break down. For example if you built a kayak out of concrete that gives off CO2 as it sets. 

But concrete kayaks aside and making some rough estimates based on a guess that the wages and profit margin for all stages contributing to the manufacture of a kayak are about 67%. Then the remaining 33% could be attributed to an energy cost. I came to the conclusion that the cost of energy going into manufacturing the boat was probably about 30% of the cost of energy used in transporting it during its working life. 

So if one wanted to calculate a carbon offset value then Dave is almost certainly right that the difference between manufacturing techniques is not worth considering. But it does seem possible that the energy used in making a kayak is significant. 

It would be interesting to have better estimates of profit margins, wages, and the average cost of fuel used in transporting a kayak during its working life. 

All the best, PeterO 
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