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From: Kasper Osterbye <kasper_at_itu.dk>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Lights
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:43:31 +0200
Here in Denmark the brochure from agency of sea-safety specifies red/green
to the sides, and white at aft.
However, if the vessel is less than 7 meters moving less than 7 knots and it
is practically impossible to carry such light, a white lantern with
visibility of 2 nautical miles must be carried.

I interpret this to mean that a white light means an anchored vessel, or a
small slow vessel. Other vessels can therefore NOT assume white to mean
anchored

For kayakers, it is possible to get head mounted lanterns.

-- Kasper
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Lights
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:33:30 -0700
Kasper, just out of curiosity, do the rules mention showing the lantern to
avoid a collision? The US rules have that word "lantern" in them too and
since the US Rules were taken from the ColRegs I expect most countries are
similar. Most of us ignore using a "lantern" because it's even more
difficult to carry than a flashlight.

The difference between an anchored vessel showing an all-around white light
and a kayak showing a lantern would be, in the US:

1. The kayak's light is low and the anchored vessel's all-around light is
supposed to be placed as high as possible in the rigging.

2. The kayak's lantern would only be shown in the event of a collision.

As far as assuming anything, the US Rules specifically obligate the mariner
to keep a lookout, move at a speed consistent with conditions, and avoid
collisions.


Craig Jungers
Royal City, WA

On 8/1/07, Kasper Osterbye <kasper_at_itu.dk> wrote:
>
> Here in Denmark the brochure from agency of sea-safety specifies red/green
> to the sides, and white at aft.
> However, if the vessel is less than 7 meters moving less than 7 knots and
> it
> is practically impossible to carry such light, a white lantern with
> visibility of 2 nautical miles must be carried.
>
> I interpret this to mean that a white light means an anchored vessel, or a
> small slow vessel. Other vessels can therefore NOT assume white to mean
> anchored
>
> For kayakers, it is possible to get head mounted lanterns.
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From: Kasper Osterbye <kasper_at_itu.dk>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Lights
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:14:33 +0200
White light visible from all directions, placed as high as possible.
Specifically the lens must be about 1.599 high and wide. Such a small
lantern is only valid for inner Danish waters though (But you really would
never paddle at night at high sea anyway).

In practice, most people I know of have a deck mounted light behind the
cockpit. Night paddling is mostly done at winter (does not really get dark
before 11 PM in summer anyway), and therefore in cold water and close to
shore, so not often a problem. Some people carry a flashlight to warn off
other vessels as you mention. The rules are clearly not intended for kayaks.

-- Kasper


On 01/08/07 16.33, "Craig Jungers" <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Kasper, just out of curiosity, do the rules mention showing the lantern to
> avoid a collision? The US rules have that word "lantern" in them too and
since
> the US Rules were taken from the ColRegs I expect most countries are
similar.
> Most of us ignore using a "lantern" because it's even more difficult to
carry
> than a flashlight.
>
> The difference between an anchored vessel showing an all-around white light
> and a kayak showing a lantern would be, in the US:
>
> 1. The kayak's light is low and the anchored vessel's all-around light is
> supposed to be placed as high as possible in the rigging.
>
> 2. The kayak's lantern would only be shown in the event of a collision.
>
> As far as assuming anything, the US Rules specifically obligate the mariner
to
> keep a lookout, move at a speed consistent with conditions, and avoid
> collisions.
>
>
> Craig Jungers
> Royal City, WA
>
> On 8/1/07, Kasper Osterbye <kasper_at_itu.dk> wrote:
>> Here in Denmark the brochure from agency of sea-safety specifies red/green
>> to the sides, and white at aft.
>> However, if the vessel is less than 7 meters moving less than 7 knots and
it
>> is practically impossible to carry such light, a white lantern with
>> visibility of 2 nautical miles must be carried.
>>
>> I interpret this to mean that a white light means an anchored vessel, or a
>> small slow vessel. Other vessels can therefore NOT assume white to mean
>> anchored
>>
>> For kayakers, it is possible to get head mounted lanterns.
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