[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply including old headers and footers. It's list policy.... this post was modified to meet policy] Suspect that there are three components to being able to roll a tandem boat - one being boat design, the second being the skill of the paddlers, and the third being the efforts made at practicing a tandem roll. While I can't speak knowledgeably on boat design for double sea kayaks, I can relate some first-hand experience from paddling a decked C-2 in whitewater, which confirms the notion that individuals who have solid solo rolls - and have practiced tandem rolls - are much more likely to be able to roll a tandem boat in real conditions. While my primary whitewater boat is a kayak, mostly because I can't sit for any length of time on my ankles, the combination of having spent enough pool time in a C-1/OC-1 to learn a solid single-blade roll, coupled with my favorite kayaking partner being more comfortable in C-boats, found me both in the pool and on the river in a whitewater slalom C-2. As such, I believe that the key thing for tandem paddlers wanting to roll is to: a) know how to roll a solo boat - solidly and consistently b) on flipping, wait long enough for your partner to (mostly) be set up for the roll - which can be pre-arranged either by a countdown, tap(s) on the boat with the paddle, or a physical nudge of the bow paddler by the stern paddler. In the C-boats, one of us always had to change paddle grips prior to rolling, and I suspect that in tandem kayak it would also take some time to have both paddlers get the paddlers into the set up positiong. c) have the ability both to feel the partner initiate the roll, and to follow as soon as the rolling motion is felt. Play Hard, Erik Sprenne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Livingston" <bearboat2_at_comcast.net> > However, sea kayaks rarely tip over unless the roll is deliberate. So > the sea kayaker who tips over unexpectedly is facing a new experience > (even if he is a good roller) which decreases the success rate. > > A double magnifies all these issues. Double REALLY rarely flip. Some > coordination between paddlers is required. (Even if one is assigned > the task of getting out) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Oct 11 2007 - 05:48:07 PDT
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