[Paddlewise] swim for it? cold water

From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:06:49 4
Here is a nice view of cold water swimming from a cold water  swimmer. 
Reprinted with permission of author. 

Chuck Sutherland 

Subject:        	cold water (?) 
To:             	skimmer_at_enter.net 

Chuck, 
    I just looked on Paddlewise and did not find any discussion. If  you
know where then feel free to post my email w/permission.  Thanks again,
  
Richard 

*Richard C. Clifford, Esq. 
Attorney at Law* 
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Date sent:      	Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:50:34 -0500 
From:           	Richard Clifford  <RichardClifford_at_earthlink.net> 
To:             	nyckayaker  <nyckayaker_at_rockandwater.net> 
Subject:        	NYCkayaker Temperatures, water and  air 

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NYCKayaker: 
    The water temperatures now are solidly in the mid-50s  Fahrenheit.  
58.6 deg. F. at the Battery (www.nycswim.org) or 55 deg. F. at  
Execution  
Rock on the Long Island Sound.   
http://www.mysound.uconn.edu/exrx_wq.html or 59 deg. F. about 3  miles  
off of Greenwich, CT.   http://www.mysound.uconn.edu/wlisgw_wq.html  
And,  
all have dropped steadily over the last 2 weeks.  

    Personally, I did my last open-water swim of the season while  up in
  
Westport, CT. Well, probably the last one. (The Alcatraz swim in  CA is
  
in 52-53 deg. F. water temps. Ouch!) There were about 18-19  swimmers in
  
the for between 15-40 minutes. I was the only one using a wet suit  
(sleeveless, farmer-john) and had no problem doing so! Some of  them  
laughed later saying that while I put on a wet suit, many of them  were
  
wearing theirs (with body fat). 
    
    Water temps for our swim were 57-58 degrees F.. I was in for 35  
minutes and not getting cold. But, when 2 swimmers for whom I  have the
  
greatest respect said that they were getting out, I said 'this is good  
enough for me.' I got out with them. There seemed to be a number  of  
factors controlling the reaction of the individual swimmers. Body  mass,
  
experience with open-water & cold water swimming, length of time  in the
  
water; type of cap; taking a GU pack before or during the swim  (100  
calories), etc.. Some just did not seem to be affected by the cold.  One
  
fellow was shivering after a 15 minute swim. Eventually, everyone  did  
get out of the water. 

    Kayakers: At this point with water temps in the 50s everyone  who is
  
still (or about to) kayak should have a plan for immersion, including  a
  
solid Plan-B, and all necessary and proper gear to avoid  hypothermia.  
Plan for the accident that can happen, not for the one that you  might  
prefer to happen.  

    So, from time to time one wonders/asks if it is "cold" and this  
answer appears. - Richard Clifford 



*Here is the entire story on what constitutes cold weather. * 

*"Cold" is a relative term. 
Use the handy list below to overcome the confusion. * 

 Degrees (Fahrenheit) 

 * 65F   Hawaiians declare a two-blanket night 
 * 60F   Californians put on sweaters (if they can find one) 
 * 50F   Miami residents turn on the heat 
 * 45F   Vermont residents go to outdoor concerts 
 * 40F   You can see your breath 
         Californians shiver uncontrollably 
         Minnesotans go swimming 
 * 35F   Italian cars don't start 
 * 32F   Water freezes 
 * 30F   You plan your vacation to Australia 
 * 25F   Ohio water freezes 
         Californians weep pitiably 
         Minnesotans eat ice cream 
         Canadians go swimming 
 * 20F   Politicians begin to talk about the homeless 
         New York City water freezes 
         Miami residents plan vacation further South 
 * 15F   French cars don't start 
         Cat insists on sleeping in your bed with you 
 * 10F   You need jumper cables to get the car going 
 * 5F    American cars don't start 
 * 0F    Alaskans put on T-shirts 
 * -10   German cars don't start 
         Eyes freeze shut when you blink 
 * -15   You can cut your breath and use it to build an igloo 
         Arkansans stick tongue on metal objects 
         Miami residents cease to exist 
 * -20   Cat insists on sleeping in pajamas with you 
         Politicians actually do something about the homeless 
         Minnesotans shovel snow off roof 
         Japanese cars don't start 
 * -25   Too cold to think 
         You need jumper cables to get the driver going 
 * -30   You plan a two week hot bath 
         Swedish cars don't start 
 * -40   Californians disappear 
         Minnesotans button top button 
         Canadians put on sweaters 
         Your car helps you plan your trip South 
 * -50   Congressional hot air freezes 
         Alaskans close the bathroom window 
 * -80   Hell freezes over 
         Polar bears move South 
         Viking Fans order hot cocoa at the game 
 * -90   Lawyers put their hands in their own pockets 

Richard C. Clifford, Esq. 
Attorney at Law* 
1890 Palmer Avenue, Suite 302 
Larchmont, NY 10538 
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