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From: Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu>
subject: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras.
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:37:07 +0100
I have gone through many creative phases in my life,
some of them with cameras, taperecorders, in short the works, 
some totally without - often not even with a pen and paper,
a medium I love.

Travelling abroad without, alone, without 'aids' can be intensive,
but there is then very little left when you come back home -
blurred memories, mixed with some intensive ones,
that survive.

Eventually, I come to the conclusion, that a light
camera, preferably waterproof, and possibly a small 
camcorder, also waterproof, is the best way. Pen and 
paper works for the real quiet moments, but a camera 
of some sort captures the moment in an instant, and they 
can be ideal support for your memory, say for your later 
artwork/writing.

I've tried bringing watercolour, but mosquitoes, rain, and 
humidity, makes it a waste of time and effort!

And I don't carry a 'wet film' camera any more - gave most of mine
away, as the cost of using them is prohibitive - even more so 
as time passes away. With a digital you can shoot as a madman 
(a.k.a. 'pro'), and still not owe your soul to the developers and film 
manufacturers!

I love a classic Sinar, a Swiss masterpiece of a blade 
film camera, but that is really not useful at all when 
you're on the move - unless you have a lot of people 
carrying your stuff! Likewise, a tapedeck, no matter how
nice, is just a lot of dead weight. Another favourite was 
the Hasselblad SWC, extreme wide angle

My ideal would be a high resolution compact digital camera -
one with a physically big CCD (or whatever those photo-capturing 
chips are called today), that also is waterproof. Sadly, 
I know of none! The bigger the chip is, the less the noise
it produces - very valuable in bad light! But that's maybe 
available tomorrow?!

Till then we have to make do with cameras with small chips, 
but high resolution (therefore noisy in low light), but they can 
still do wonders if used with a tripod, or like Mark's, which is 
connected rigidly to his paddle.

I have heard of no serious camcorder that's waterproof, 
no matter what make! But there are one or two that clamp 
on to your helmet, that can give a decent film snips of your 
activities, and some of these are waterproof, to boot!

My ideal set of media equipment weighs less than a kilo,
in total, including a tiny tripod. I have found that without it I can't 
remember as well the events, views and people that has passed 
during my travels, with my wife, with friends, or alone.

Just like writing about it afterward, or making a drawing, or two,
afterwards helps re-appreciate, and re-evaluate, the trip afterwards, 
so does other kinds of registration, like digital cameras, or camcorders,
mp3 recorders, whatever!

Better have a few pieces that work, than a lot that encumbers you,
just as it is in other walks of life!

my 2 cents,

Tord

PS Naturally, I am not yet down to just one kilo, but I'm working on it!
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras.
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:20:12 -0800
Interesting perspective on camers:

http://www.wavelengthmagazine.com/2002/as02rainforest.php

Doug Lloyd

Tord said (snip):

> Eventually, I come to the conclusion, that a light
> camera, preferably waterproof, and possibly a small 
> camcorder, also waterproof, is the best way. Pen and 
> paper works for the real quiet moments, but a camera 
> of some sort captures the moment in an instant, and they 
> can be ideal support for your memory, say for your later 
> artwork/writing.
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From: Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras. Who says the pen is mightier than the sword
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:09:19 -0800
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Doug Lloyd

Interesting perspective on cameras:

http://www.wavelengthmagazine.com/2002/as02rainforest.php

" I'd always believed I couldn't draw. Her book taught me a few simple
exercises to get me going...Another technique is to forget about drawing
say, a bear, but to focus on drawing the negative shapes around the bear,
between its legs, and so on..."


Sorry Doug, I've had limited success with this technique. On my last paddle
adventure in the Alaskan wilderness, chastened my digital camera's horrific
carbon foot print, I tried to employ Dan's sketching method to record my
memories. Of course, pad and pencil are no better than a camera to capture
the tantalizing aroma of fresh brewed coffee steaming on the campfire on a
mist shrouded rocky shore. So I turned my attention to the grizzled looking
bear lunging toward my unprotected campsite. Hoping not to miss the moment,
I picked up pad and pencil and tried to focus on the negative shapes
surrounding the galloping bear. As the moment of impact grew closer, I was
having trouble trying to focus on exactly which of the negative shape to
best focus on. The hot breath emanating from around it's flaring nostrils
was too ephemeral for my budding artistic talent to form a coherent shape. I
soon found focus on the increasingly negative space between the razor sharp
claws hurtling toward my head. I grew frustrated that an activity that was
supposed to come naturally with just a few exercises could so easily be
foiled by protruding bone  and the inability to hold on to my pencil due the
copious amounts of blood now running down my arm. Still concerned for the
environment I continued to focus on the negative shapes between its rotting
fangs now filling with bloody hunks of my flesh and hair. My head, wedged
like a vise between my subjects massive jaws, could now only focus on the
humongous ursine uvula rattling in its throat as its roar relieved me of my
last vestiges of consciousness. With one good eye, and now only able to
think with my left brain, I was just able to realize that even water-proof
paper is ruined by unrestrained hemoglobin.

Mark
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras. Who says the pen is mightier than the sword
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:19:11 -0700
On 11/6/07, Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> With one good eye, and now only able to
> think with my left brain, I was just able to realize that even water-proof
> paper is ruined by unrestrained hemoglobin.


There... see? And you thought you couldn't draw.

LOL

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
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From: Paul Montgomery <paul_at_paddleandoar.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras.
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:55:45 -0800
On Nov 5, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote:

> Interesting perspective on camers:
>
> http://www.wavelengthmagazine.com/2002/as02rainforest.php
>
> Doug Lloyd

Thanks for the article Doug. This thought has been rattling around in  
my head for a while. I almost never take my camera with me anymore  
because the pictures tend to look the same - water, green stuff. No  
doubt a testimony to my point and click photography skills.

"Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" is a book that has been on  
my shelf for about 30 years. I learned how to draw realistic  
portraits from that book. Although it deals with sketching, what it  
really deals with is understanding how your mind works. A fascinating  
read IMO.

I found it interesting that Paul Theroux would write a book about  
kayaking with no pictures. How tempting would it be to "cop out" and  
fluff up a narrative with a few sunsets.

Other dimensions to explore...

Paul Montgomery
paul_at_paddleandoar.com
http://paddleandoar.com
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From: James Farrelly <JFarrelly5_at_comcast.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras.
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:30:16 -0500
> "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" is a book that has been on
> my shelf for about 30 years.
Would a teenager find this book helpful?  My son and I may benefit  
from it.
>
> I found it interesting that Paul Theroux would write a book about
> kayaking with no pictures. How tempting would it be to "cop out" and
> fluff up a narrative with a few sunsets.
>

> Other dimensions to explore...
>
> Paul Montgomery


I can be highly motivated by words like when I read Chris Duff's On  
Celtic Tides or if in need of a visual fix by  watching Nick Shade's  
paddling videos because they are so in the moment. They remind me of  
being there and sparring with Mother Nature until she wins (every  
time). Static photos can be hypnotic, beautiful or fill me with  
curiosity but the written word when done well really takes me there.  
I will forever smile when I think of Chris Duff meeting the locals  
along the coast of Ireland where my family is from. "You must be  
mad!" they reply as he quietly informs them that he is paddling  
around Ireland in a canoe.  They would all answer with the same voice  
but you know they were a bit jealous. Arent we all?

Jim et al
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From: Paul Montgomery <paul_at_paddleandoar.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras.
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:16:39 -0800
On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:30 AM, James Farrelly wrote:

>> "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" is a book that has been on
>> my shelf for about 30 years.
> Would a teenager find this book helpful?  My son and I may benefit
> from it.

Not only helpful, essential IMO. It can help in understanding the  
whole learning process. "Drawing..." teaches how to draw the human  
portrait because there is an assumption that portraits are harder to  
draw. By getting over that block we understand that it's not really  
true, which gives us the confidence to do other things.


Paul Montgomery
paul_at_paddleandoar.com
http://paddleandoar.com
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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:18:55 +1300
on 6/11/07 18:20, Doug Lloyd at douglloyd_at_shaw.ca wrote:

> Interesting perspective on camers:
> 
> http://www.wavelengthmagazine.com/2002/as02rainforest.php
> 
> Doug Lloyd
> 
It is indeed interesting, and may have validity.

Think of the bus-loads of tourists who disgorge at the view/famous
location/historic site (choose as required), line up, shoot a frame (sorry,
old technology terms coming through) and climb back on the bus without
actually feeling anything.

I know the feeling well. I am entering my 21st year of carrying a camera for
a living, and I am usually disconnected from the events that I'm
photographing. Often on leaving a sports event a taxi driver will ask me who
is winning. I usually reply, "Who is playing?" as I'm more interested in
shapes, moments and actions than on the game itself.

A camera can be a powerful reality-filter (sometimes very useful, if the
reality is not-too-flash) but doesn't need to be.

Having said all that, photographs, when viewed long after the event, will
bring back memories that would otherwise be totally lost. One image can
bring back a flood of smells, sounds and emotions that would otherwise be
gone.

Don't write off the medium, folks, just rise above point-and-shoot.

Cheers

JKA


-- 
John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
NEW ZEALAND
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From: Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Pros and Cons of being at sea (or elsewhere) with cameras.
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:13:02 +0100
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 06:20, you wrote:
> Interesting perspective on camers:
>
> http://www.wavelengthmagazine.com/2002/as02rainforest.php
>
> Doug Lloyd
>
> Tord said (snip):
> > Eventually, I come to the conclusion, that a light
> > camera, preferably waterproof, and possibly a small
> > camcorder, also waterproof, is the best way. Pen and
> > paper works for the real quiet moments, but a camera
> > of some sort captures the moment in an instant, and they
> > can be ideal support for your memory, say for your later
> > artwork/writing.

The amount of pollution classic wet film cameras are
responisble for is amazing - digitals win hand down!

Big film labs, when their water treatment isn't top notch,
can easily kill entire water treatment plants, through the
very potent toxins involved in developing, and manufacture,
of film and pictures!

Tord
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