G'Day, Thanks for all those responses - much appreciated! I'll try to summarise them though that's no substitute for the original posts. There were 11 examples of rescues with at least two being due to entrapment: - 4 rescues were in white water - 4 during practise sessions - 1 at sea - 2 sounded as if they might have been during practise or on flat water. Pam described a paddler caught in a zipper and Steve a student trapped in a tight spray skirt. David Dalbey and Sid gave instances of paddlers who were unable to wet exit. It looked as if only one rescue was carried out at sea (one of three described by Rob). Anyway I'm now convinced the rescue is useful in real conditions not just for practise - thanks. There was concensus that the rescue was straightforward with provisos from David Carlson who mentioned a possible difficulty with boats facing bow to stern and both David and James Farrelly describing the difficulty slightly built rescuers could have with heavily built rescuees. James also mentioned the value of keeping the victim low on the deck. Scott questioned the value of some rescues in real conditions but thoroughtly endorsed their value for pratice and illustrated this with a description of the scoop rescue used to help larger paddlers during training sessions. Dave Kruger commented this would be a useful alternative to using a sling. Finally (though he was the first) Mark showed a couple of excellent before and after shots of a practise rescue in action. Mark I have to agree Duane does a fine job - the best looking, coldest looking, most relieved looking corpse imaginable! I guess being the victim in this rescue practise is the really hard part! I liked Scotts comment "You don't get any bonus points for technique when performing a kayak rescue - anything that works." In this spirit I've found that knowing a hands free pump is working on the rescuees boat leaves me free to just flp the boat up, help the rescuee in and hold the boat stable while pumping out, which I prefer to a T rescue in heavier seas and wind. Also (and sorry Scott), I'm yet another person who can report combining a reenter and eskimo rescue in real conditions (on a point in a busy waterway). It was only practical because I knew there was a working hands free pump on the rescuees boat, otherwise it would have been a mess! But both the flip and pump and the Eskimo rescues were fast when they needed to be. QUESTIONs Can an unconscious person drown? Is it likely to be easier to revive an unconscious person than a person who's lungs are full of water? Does anyone have experience of successful CPR on kayakers at sea? I'm serious about these, my paddling mates are getting older by the minute! All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Jan 06 2009 - 02:55:43 PST
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