Here's Sean's response for another viewpoint regarding Mark's post... I felt it was only fair to offer the organizers an opportunity to respond. Pretty well reported Mark! Thanks so much for bringing this post to my attention. Please feel free to publish this response. Firstly I want to thank Mark for what I take to be a very honest account of what happened on the Advanced Trip at the Golden Gate Sea Kayak Symposium. Secondly I want to point out that I can only base my response to Mark's account on hearsay as I wasn't on the trip and whilst I did my best to listen to everyone's account I am fully aware that not everyone is willing to share their thoughts and opinions in a group setting. I acted as Safety Officer for the symposium. Before allowing the Advanced Trip to go ahead and to attempt the trip from Horseshoe Cove to Stinston Beach I checked the weather conditions, both current and forecasted, swell heights, wind speeds, etc. I also made a visual check of the surf at Rodeo Beach that morning at 7.00am. I was satisfied that conditions appeared to be good enough for the trip to go ahead. Indeed, for the time of year, conditions appeared to be nigh on perfect. I discussed the various options with the TL and his assistants and they seemed happy to attempt the journey. After the symposium daily briefing, which did include some of my thoughts on personal responsibility and being appropriately dressed I left the groups to do their thing and did not check on such things as what kit folk were carrying or wearing. I feel this is the responsibility of the TL and his assistants. I cannot comment on the decision made by the TL to abort the open coast section of the trip. I was not there, I did not see the standard of paddling that the group participants were displaying, nor do I know what the localized conditions were like at Point Bonita. All I can say is that I trust and respect the TL's decision. Whilst completing the shuttle and leaving a vehicle and trailer at Stinston Beach I was able to see first hand the conditions on the open coast and I was reassured to see that they were indeed as near perfect as one is likely to get this time of year. Therefore I was somewhat surprised and confused when I returned to Horseshoe Cove to find the group attempting to re- enter the Gate at what was close to maximum ebb. I immediately boarded the symposium safety boat and went to take a look. It was apparent that whilst there was some separation of the group due to the nature of the 90degree turn at Lime Point, there didn't appear to be any panic or any suggestion of immediate danger to anyone. We monitored the situation for a short while and then were asked to convey two of the group back to Horseshoe Cove in the safety boat which we did without incident. I did notice that when the two group members got out of their kayaks and into the safety boat they were both wearing shorts and one was not wearing any shoes and I made my opinion known that I felt that was unacceptable attire for such an excursion. I will add that at this time I did not know whether any of the group's instructors or anyone else associated with the symposium had approved their clothing. I have subsequently found out that such discussion did take place with one of the Symposium organizers and whilst I agree that at the end of the day it is a personal decision I continue to hold the opinion that such attire is not acceptable and I know that I would not be willing to have someone dressed as such in a group I am responsible for. Once all the group had returned to Horseshoe Cove I de-briefed the instructors which included me expressing my concern over what some of the group were wearing on their lower extremities. We then conducted a group de-brief and everyone was given the opportunity to share their thoughts on what had happened. I again expressed by concerns about appropriate clothing and footwear and I noted that one other member of the group was also wearing board shorts. That was the extent of my discussion with the participants of the group on the issue. I was disappointed to learn the next day that one of the group had gone home early and I was sad that this person had not felt able or willing to express his concerns with me. I think there is a huge amount of learning that can be gained from this scenario and surely that is what Symposium's are all about? Of course I fully understand the disappointment felt by many members of the group at not having made it out onto the open coast and completing the trip. I was extremely disappointed for you! I do think that some interesting decisions were made and wonder if all options were fully considered but I cannot criticize the TL as I was not there. What I do know is that everyone got home safely and whilst there may well be some frustration remaining about the decisions that were taken, hopefully everyone can take away something from the experience and learn from it. If any member of that Advanced Trip would like to join me on the same excursion at some stage in the future (weather/sea conditions permitting) I will do my very best to make that happen at no charge to anyone. I would like to add some more on personal responsibility and risk assessment. If you have seen my slideshow on my circumnavigation of the UK and Ireland you will see many photos of me wearing neoprene shorts during that expedition. Indeed you will see many photos of me not wearing a pfd! I can certainly relate to Mark's problems with overheating as I have a similar issue. But quite simply we are both wrong to have not dressed for immersion. Not only are we putting our own lives at risk, we are risking the lives of our colleagues who we paddle with and the members of the rescue services who might have to come and save us. These days with the quality of technical gear available to sea kayakers there really is no excuse for not wearing the appropriate clothing. By using a layering system and waterproof breathable fabrics it is absolutely possible to be appropriately dressed for immersion WITHOUT running the risk of overheating. Of course cost is an issue for everyone but you have to consider how much it could cost you and your family if you don't wear it? The only way to find out how to dress for immersion is to practice self rescues in different combinations of clothing until you find a system that works for you. You should not rely on a 'bomb proof' roll or your colleagues to pluck you out of the water before you go hypothermic. Sea kayaking is all about judgment and risk assessment. I will not pretend that I heed my own advice on every occasion that I go out on the water but I can promise you this, you will not see me wearing a pair of board shorts and no shoes on a coastal trip at any time of year. The other aspect of personal judgment and risk assessment that this scenario highlights is that of self-assessment. What I am about to say is no reflection upon the skills of any of the individuals on the Advanced Trip. Sadly I did not have the opportunity to paddle with you and so I cannot comment. This was my first attempt at organizing a symposium. Our mission is to create a world-class skills symposium. I knew we had a fantastic venue and through my contacts in the industry I knew I could put together a world-class line-up of instructors. I am all for people extending themselves - that is how I have learnt to paddle myself. I am fortunate enough to have had some awesome paddlers for teachers and role models in my paddling career and I want to give others that same opportunity. This event was designed to encourage and allow people to extend themselves and learn and discover in relative safety knowing that some of the best in the business were there to look after them and make sure the didn't do anything really dangerous. So I am delighted that we had so many people interested in signing up for classes such as the Advanced Trip and the one I had direct involvement in - Rock Gardening. I had been warned by much more experienced symposium instructors that participants have a tendency to sign up for classes that are inappropriate for their skill level. I was naove and did not give this due consideration in my planning. It would have been possible to produce more of a natural progression through the weekend and allow participants to 'grow' their skill set and obtain feedback before embarking on for example, the Advanced Trip. You can be sure that next year the Advanced Trip will not be on the first day and there may be a pre-requisite 'warm up session' on the preceding day. Of course if you do sign up for a class that is way above your skill set you will not only deny yourself a learning opportunity (for example it is almost impossible to learn new skills if all you are trying to do is stay upright), you can also impact upon the learning and enjoyment of others. I would strongly encourage you to find a mentor, someone with solid paddling skills and experience, in whose judgment you trust and get their advice on what classes are appropriate for you. I know that Mark did indeed do just that before signing up for the Advanced Trip and was encouraged to participate by one of the trip's instructors. Happy paddling and I hope to see more of you at next year's Golden Gate Sea Kayak Symposium. Sean Morley River and Ocean LLC Valley Sea Kayaks, Kokatat Watersports Wear, Lettmann Paddles, North Shore Sea Kayaks, Snap Dragon Design, Mitchell Paddles, Gath Helmets, Barz Optics, Gaia Sports www.riverandocean.com tel:415-816-8746 fax:415-747-8724 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I think Sean covered things very well from his viewpoint as the head of the symposium. As I said earlier, I was impressed with his interest in making this event work as smoothly as possible and I'm sure he has some ideas to make sure this type of scenario doesn't happen at next years symposium. I'm glad he took the time to respond to my post and hope he feels I gave a fair account of my side. I hope David will make sure Sean has a chance to read my second day's report so he'll know I had a much better experience there as well. Mark -----Original Message----- Subject: [Paddlewise] Sean Morley re: GGSKS Here's Sean's response for another viewpoint regarding Mark's post... I felt it was only fair to offer the organizers an opportunity to respond. Pretty well reported Mark! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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