Well yeah, "need" is one of those "filter trip" code words that in the context of rudders, always generates a response from you Jerry. I forgot that. :-) However, my wordology when it comes to kayaks is pretty defined in degrees of reasonable use and I retain the right to use the word need in the context that most of us understand this word being used, just as there is a lot of kayaks that seem to benefit objectively well from the inclusion of a skeg. Of course, there is the Mariner Elan. Now, that kayak hull doesn't "need" a skeg - but then, it has one built into the keel line, so in effect it does have a skeg. I can't imagine paddling a squirrelly, hull-extension skeg-less Elan, though it could be done of course. I like the Point 65 kayaks that can have a rudder installed super-sano at any point. My Nordkapp HS was an ideal candidate for a deep-draft rudder with its intrinsic maneuverability (compared to the HM) and directional control with the rudder. But yeah, Matt has a point about rudders being a hassle mechanically, safety wise and rescue inhibiting, and the white-knuckle experience when a round bilge hull lets loose into a broach when the rudder comes out astern in following seas. If my next kayak will benefit from a rudder for longer crossings (obviously, a kayak I would be earmarking for some cruising as opposed to a strictly playboat), I'd go for a full foot bar plate with articulating pedals now that I have also decided to go to an electric bilge pump as opposed to a mid-mounted bulkhead foot pump. Some of the top-rated fitness kayaks like the Marlin by KayakPro use a foot brace that spans the width of the cockpit with hinged pedal above. Doug Lloyd > Doug wrote: > >> Well, if I can find one that doesn't need a rudder, I can always add one >> when I find it does. :-) > > I have long objected to the use of the word 'need' in this context. Many > boats can be readily managed in most conditions without a rudder, so do > not 'need' one. Nevertheless, a rudder will save a small but significant > amount of energy in a long straight passage through windy chop. > Especially if it is a modern one with a foil blade and fixed footbraces. > However, not every boat is suitable for mounting a rudder; for example a > boat with a large amount of stern rocker. > > Jerry *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sun Jun 21 2009 - 10:14:33 PDT
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