Re: [Paddlewise] Fresh water lake paddling

There are people that are going to disagree with this, but I'm going to 
tell you why I carry a drogue on known surf days and do everything I 
can to not use it. If you are on a trip and someone goes seasick and 
becomes top heavy ballast, they need shore. Sometimes that is through 
surf. A drogue will keep the boat perpendicular. It will also slow the 
boat down. You can trip the drogue with a secondary line and speed up 
between sets. Then you have all that line in the water if you and a 
raft support member goes over. Like I said, I'd do everything I can to 
not use it. However, injured or unresponsive and top heavy ballast in a 
kayak has to get to shore and in the surf I'd use it if I had to.

Cheers,

Rob G


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
To: paddlewise <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 9:38 am
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fresh water lake paddling


List,B 
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I asked Craig about this:B 
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Craig,B 
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Other than slowing a kayaking and giving it control in extreme surf, 
what are the practical benefits of carrying a drogue or sea anchor in a 
kayak? I suppose a good sea anchor would help stop you dead in the 
water more or less (notwithstanding current) if you got caught in an 
offshore wind and perhaps blue water kayakers doing long crossings 
where there's a possibility of extreme storms, but other th
an that, is 
it worth carrying one?B 
B 
Kayaking seems to be the antithesis of the luxury motor yacht and 
world-class sailing vessels with every imaginable gadget and luxury in 
many cases, the kayak being measured by the essential minimalism while 
the former, the opposite. I'm trying to cut down on gear, not add more. 
I've long considered a slowing device but most offshore wind situations 
I need every second to power back in, not mess around with devices. 
Similarly, in extremis, fidgeting for a device and or finding adequate 
storage compounds the issue unless I was in a big Klepper. Guess you'd 
just call the Mothership - sorry, Muthaship. :-)B 
B 
Doug.B 
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> 
wrote:B 
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>> An oily Elvis impersonator wrapped in drag around a para-anchor 
deployedB 
>> astern in heavy weather would be triply effective....B 
>B 
>B 
> The effect is diminished until the Elvis impersonator stops thrashing 
> aroundB 
> and creating wavelets.B 
>B 
> C's will abate to an B- or even an A+ with a bit more pedagogy from 
Craig > onB 
>> this topic, as he's a more knowlegable sailor.B 
>B 
>B 
> Grade inflation is everywhere these days. Brad or Kruger should have 
aB 
> better handle on that. As for me, pedagogy is practically my middle 
name.B 
>B 
>>B 
>> Alternativ
ely, just throw your recyclable items into the ocean 
directly.B 
>> The biggest danger sailing swollen seas is being hit by green waves. 
By >> notB 
>> recycling in an environmentally suitable manner, the waves will not 
beB 
>> "green" anymore. But that may be just as irresponsible as pouring 
oil >> intoB 
>> the ocean. Maybe try used tunafish cans and oldd olive oil bottles -B 
>> incorporating doubly good ideas (unlike my humour).B 
>B 
>B 
> Oddly enough they used to use whale oil (which they carried for 
lamps)B 
> which, I suppose, could be considered "green recycling". Just don't 
make aB 
> mistake and buy tuna packed in water as that would, I am pretty sure, 
> negateB 
> any positive effects. A really big fan mounted on the stern pointed 
into > theB 
> wind might be additive to the wind vector and do some good re: sea 
state.B 
>B 
>B 
>> So yeah, for kayakers, just use a little Dapper Dan, then if you 
roll inB 
>> following seas...B 
>>B 
>B 
> A little dab'll do ya.B 
>B 
> Craig JungersB 
> dead calm in Moses LakeB 
> www.nwkayaking.netB 
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