I will throw my opinions in here now. I live in northern Alberta, where we do see caribou on an occasional basis. I would agree that caribou cannot swim at 6 or 9 knots except in the case, going downstream on the Mackenzie, Yukon rivers or other major rivers. Their probable normal swimming speed would be a little less than 3 knots. Caribou and Reindeer are similar critters in very similar ecosystems, but the Reindeer is not in indigenous to north America. Even though there is a large reserve where Reindeer have been imported to the Northwest Territories just a bit south and west of Tuktoyaktuk. Alaskans raise them domestically for jerky, steak and sausages. I did paddle a Caribou on the bow river downstream of Banff national park at close to 9 knots. Jim Meldrum Slave Lake Alberta, Canada. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
jim.... caribou and reindeer are not just "similar critters".... they actually are one in the same the only difference being that caribou are running free in the wild.... reindeer are domisticated caribou raised in herds by people steve -----Original Message----- From: Jim Meldrum <meldrum_at_northernlakescollege.ca> To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 2:09 pm Subject: [Paddlewise] Caribou/Reindeer I will throw my opinions in here now. I live in northern Alberta, where we do see caribou on an occasional basis. I would agree that caribou cannot swim at 6 or 9 knots except in the case, going downstream on the Mackenzie, Yukon rivers or other major rivers. Their probable normal swimming speed would be a little less than 3 knots. Caribou and Reindeer are similar critters in very similar ecosystems, but the Reindeer is not in indigenous to north America. Even though there is a large reserve where Reindeer have been imported to the Northwest Territories just a bit south and west of Tuktoyaktuk. Alaskans raise them domestically for jerky, steak and sausages. I did paddle a Caribou on the bow river downstream of Banff national park at close to 9 knots. Jim Meldrum Slave Lake Alberta, Canada. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
nole4ever_at_aol.com said on 24 July 2009 22:08 >caribou and reindeer are .... one and the same I can't vouch for the content - but I found this an interesting page: http://www.ultimateungulate.com/Artiodactyla/Rangifer_tarandus.html Best Regards Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz> wrote: > nole4ever_at_aol.com said on 24 July 2009 22:08 > > >caribou and reindeer are .... one and the same > > I can't vouch for the content - but I found this an interesting page: > > http://www.ultimateungulate.com/Artiodactyla/Rangifer_tarandus.html > > Nice to have an authoritative (?) citation for this. I've heard it both ways but the "same species" seemed to be more accurate. I remember seeing long lines of them on the Aleutian Islands while flying back from Dutch Harbor 20 years ago. The pilot and I spent some time following their trail and wondering where they were going. Thanks for the URL, Paul. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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