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From: MATT MARINER BROZE <marinerkayaks_at_msn.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kapok
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:11:09 -0700
Craig wrote:



>>>>>> In a similar vein, some 30 years (or so, but who's counting?)
lifejackets
> were not called PFDs and mostly filled with kapok which is a natural
> substance obtained from certain trees that can get waterlogged and lose
> buoyancy over time when exposed to water.
>

You would think that using a substance which can become waterlogged as the
primary buoyancy for a device that is intended to be used in water might
negate some of its useful properties. You would, apparently, be wrong. At
least in bureaucratic terms. Testing has shown that it retains buoyancy
"long enough". Since these things are all but unreachable on most ships I
suppose the question is moot anyway.<<<<<<<<<





I believe Kapok is the commercial name for the fluff from a cattail going to
seed. I believe that in Kapok PFD's the Kapok is contained inside a sealed
vinyl pouch (at least when they are new). The Type I (May West) PFD's are
usually stored under the seats on ferries.
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kapok
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:43:13 -0700
I thought Kapok was the stuff found between the ears of most law makers,
legislators, bilingual regulation writers, and over-zealous law enforcement
providers. I'm sorry, but I also don't know what the French word is for
Kapok.

DL

PS Rob, of real concern is the state of our rivers and watersheds. Those in
a governing position who effectively control stewardship, unfortunately,
also have waterlogged buoyancy material between the ears in many cases:

http://wwf.ca/conservation/freshwater/riversatrisk.cfm

Doug Lloyd

 

Craig wrote:



>>>>>> In a similar vein, some 30 years (or so, but who's counting?)
lifejackets
> were not called PFDs and mostly filled with kapok which is a natural
> substance obtained from certain trees that can get waterlogged and lose
> buoyancy over time when exposed to water.
>

You would think that using a substance which can become waterlogged as the
primary buoyancy for a device that is intended to be used in water might
negate some of its useful properties. You would, apparently, be wrong. At
least in bureaucratic terms. Testing has shown that it retains buoyancy
"long enough". Since these things are all but unreachable on most ships I
suppose the question is moot anyway.<<<<<<<<<





I believe Kapok is the commercial name for the fluff from a cattail going to
seed. I believe that in Kapok PFD's the Kapok is contained inside a sealed
vinyl pouch (at least when they are new). The Type I (May West) PFD's are
usually stored under the seats on ferries.
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kapok
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:28:27 -0700
   I thought Kapok was the sound your M-16 makes when you fire it off
at 3 am.

BRC

Quoting Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>:

> I thought Kapok was the stuff found between the ears of most law makers,
> legislators, bilingual regulation writers, and over-zealous law enforcement
> providers. I'm sorry, but I also don't know what the French word is for
> Kapok.
>
> DL
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From: Greg Dunlap <blackey_at_sonic.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kapok
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:56:34 -0700
If your firing your M-16 at 3 AM it's more like Biddda-bap-bap-bap,
Biddda-bap,Biddda-bap, Biddda-bap-bap-bap.

Greg Dunlap
Santa Rosa, CA
38.28.40.80 N
-122.45.16.25 W
157 feet above sea level

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Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kapok


   I thought Kapok was the sound your M-16 makes when you fire it off
at 3 am.

BRC

Quoting Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>:

> I thought Kapok was the stuff found between the ears of most law makers,
> legislators, bilingual regulation writers, and over-zealous law
enforcement
> providers. I'm sorry, but I also don't know what the French word is for
> Kapok.
>
> DL
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