Re: [Paddlewise] Following the money, Exxon Exposed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Jungers"

> I am becoming more convinced every day that the skeptics suspect a vast
> world-wide conspiracy because, in the last analysis, that's the way they'd
> do it if they had the chance.

Well, it was easy to fit the agenda into our continuing "Right Wing 
Conspiracy"!
I guess we could quibble on which side might be part of a conspiracy, but I 
prefer to err on the side that's not suggesting unprecidented taxes and 
government control.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Cramer"

> Meanwhile, let's ask the University of East Anglia:

Isn't that like asking Richard Nixon whether he's a crook? I seem to 
remember HIS answer!

If you're going to quote Professor Jones' response, why not quote a few of 
his emails:

 "Why should I make the data available, when your aim is to try and find 
something wrong with it?"

 "If they [Canadian researchers Ross McKitrick and Steve McIntyre] ever hear 
there is a Freedom of Information Act in the UK, I think I'll delete the 
file rather than send it to anyone."
(This is the supposedly now "lost" data that Craig feels wasn't worth 
keeping!)

"I've just completed Mike [Mann's] trick of adding in the real temps to each 
series, to hide the decline [in average global temperatures] . . ."

Hmm...to hide the decline??? Please tell me how these actions fit into 
scientific method. If the data is unassailable, what is the danger of 
providing it to skeptics?
But in the end, you're absolutely right: if we can't question the computer 
modeling, if we can't question whether the scores of BILLIONS of government 
dollars might color research, if we're supposed to ignore the destruction of 
data, then we have to accept AGW as a given.

Well, that's all for now. I'm off to a conspiracy meeting!

Mark

Mark
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