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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:16:43 -0800
For Paddlewisers on the west coast of North America, any tsunamis generated
by the 8.8 earthquake near Santiago, Chile are predicted to strike between
about noon and 2:30pm depending upon how far north you are. However wave
heights are generally 1 or 2 meters or less. Nevertheless, it's probably not
a good time to be on the beach. And if the water goes waaaayyy out, run for
high ground.

Google.com has an interesting continuing feed feature that is going along at
a pretty good clip and makes for interesting reading.

We are cautiously watching the lake for any signs of tsunami activity. So
far only one bass fisherman. Too slow to generate any waves.  :P

The risk of a problem is slight but it pays to be watchful just in case the
pundits have it wrong.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:27:08 -0800
Craig Jungers wrote:
> For Paddlewisers on the west coast of North America, any tsunamis generated
> by the 8.8 earthquake near Santiago, Chile are predicted to strike between
> about noon and 2:30pm depending upon how far north you are. However wave
> heights are generally 1 or 2 meters or less. 

Here at the mouth of the Columbia we have an "advisory," not an "alert." 
This is a lesser warning.  Predictions of wave heights are in the one-foot 
range, arriving about 2:30 pm.  Greater heights south of us.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:44:29 -0800
   Any time you are on the beach and something pulls the plug and leaves
the beach high and dry, that is definitely your clue to run like hell
for the hills.

   According to CNN, there are now about fifty wave-sensing buoys scattered
around the pacific rim, aka ring of fire. Unfortunately, not too many
people carry their HD television sets with them when they walk on the playa.

   People in Hawaii had ample advanced warning apparently.The beaches looked
pretty empty. Glad the tourists and hotels didn't get swept up.

   Brad



Quoting Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>:

> For Paddlewisers on the west coast of North America, any tsunamis generated
> by the 8.8 earthquake near Santiago, Chile are predicted to strike between
> about noon and 2:30pm depending upon how far north you are. However wave
> heights are generally 1 or 2 meters or less. Nevertheless, it's probably not
> a good time to be on the beach. And if the water goes waaaayyy out, run for
> high ground.
>
> Craig Jungers
> Moses Lake, WA
> www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Fernando Lopez Arbarello <qajaq_at_ferlopez.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:17:25 -1000
This is a good website to track real data about volcanoes, earthquakes 
and tsunamis.

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/?region=0

Here in Hawaii the sirens went off as a warning, an alert, and 
evacuation was only required on certain coastal areas, as a preventive 
measure.  I leave across the street from the beach and in my 
neighborhood this area extends only a couple of blocks from the beach. 
It is defined as areas that have been flooded by tsunamis in the last 
100 years or so.

After being awaken at 4am by family and friends from different parts of 
the world (of which I am very greatful) I spent most of the day trying 
to calm everybody after the massive campaign of disinformation lead by 
the mayor news companies, like CNN

At the same time the wave reached the Galapagos archipielago, half way 
to Hawaii, reaching the scary heights of 35cm, or 1.2 feet, mayor media 
was creating panic warning us to expect 30 feet freighttrains.

The only true data they delivered was after the Marquesas, where it 
peaked at 6 feet. That was high enough to keep everybody scared I guess. 
What they didn't mention is that in other parts of the Marquesas the 
mark was only half of that. Statistics seem to show that Hawaii 
registers similar marks as the Marquesas.

Hilo, first mayor city to be hit in Hawaii, who was seriously affected 
by a 30 feet tsunami in 1960, registered only 2.8 feet as expected 
according to the tables. Kahului in Maui was the highest with 3.2

So far from the epicenter the wave is not a wave but a tide that 
fluctuates every 15 or 20 minutes instead of several hours. Any harbor 
or beach in the world experiences 3 feet tides on a regular basis ...

Google CNN and LIES and you will find several examples, some very recent 
during the Haiti earthquake where they describe the sceen with 
manipulated photographs taken from the archives of the National 
Geographic, from an older eartquake ... in Japan ...

It's all showbiz ...

-- 
Fernando ./


On 2/28/10 11:44 AM, Bradford R. Crain wrote:
>   According to CNN...
>
>   People in Hawaii had ample advanced warning apparently.The beaches 
> looked
> pretty empty. Glad the tourists and hotels didn't get swept up.
>
>   Brad
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From: Mark Sanders <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:33:10 -0800
We have a house Near South Point on the Big Island. It should have a 
nice view of the incoming tsunami! It's too high up to worry about, but 
Hilo might get a bit wet. I'd like to know if they know it's coming or 
they're just warning in case.

http://www.sandmarks.net/TLDHouse.jpg

Mark

On 2/27/2010 11:16 AM, Craig Jungers wrote:
> For Paddlewisers on the west coast of North America, any tsunamis generated
> by the 8.8 earthquake near Santiago, Chile are predicted to strike between
> about noon and 2:30pm depending upon how far north you are. However wave
> heights are generally 1 or 2 meters or less. Nevertheless, it's probably not
> a good time to be on the beach. And if the water goes waaaayyy out, run for
> high ground.
>
> Google.com has an interesting continuing feed feature that is going along at
> a pretty good clip and makes for interesting reading.
>
> We are cautiously watching the lake for any signs of tsunami activity. So
> far only one bass fisherman. Too slow to generate any waves.  :P
>
> The risk of a problem is slight but it pays to be watchful just in case the
> pundits have it wrong.
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:51:55 -0800
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Mark Sanders <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net>wrote:

> We have a house Near South Point on the Big Island. It should have a nice
> view of the incoming tsunami! It's too high up to worry about, but Hilo
> might get a bit wet. I'd like to know if they know it's coming or they're
> just warning in case.
>

I suspect that someone knows more from the wave-rider buoys spread around
the Pacific but I don't know how to find that data. The predictions for wave
heights at the various islands in the HI chain are probably derived from
this. CNN on cable has been providing pretty decent coverage.

Twenty minutes 'til the tsunami hits the Big Island. CNN reports that the
media has been asked to leave the area of the Tsunami Warning Center in
Hono. They also say that the waves that hit the Marquesas earlier were
predicted to be 12 feet but were only 6 feet.

If you're in a kayak... stay in very deep water!

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:50:15 -0800
Craig said:

If you're in a kayak... stay in very deep water!

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net


There goes Craig, spoiling all the fun...

DL
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:44:41 -0800
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote:

>
>
> There goes Craig, spoiling all the fun...
>
>
Tsunamis are useless anyway. They're more like a surge than a wave and even
if you could stay on one the trees, cars, trucks, houses and hotel buildings
they pick up would ruin your entire day.  :P

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:25:35 -0800
Mark:
     It's a nice house alright, but if it's too high up to worry about, 
why is it built on stilts? Is it to ward off uninvited kayakers?

Bradford R. Crain

Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast


> We have a house Near South Point on the Big Island. It should have a 
> nice view of the incoming tsunami! It's too high up to worry about, but 
> Hilo might get a bit wet. I'd like to know if they know it's coming or 
> they're just warning in case.
> 
> http://www.sandmarks.net/TLDHouse.jpg
> 
> Mark
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From: Mark Sanders <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:15:40 -0800
Well, being on stilts might not help save us from a tsunami, but I 
imagine it will help preserve our view of the ocean should someone get 
around to building a house on the lot on the other side of the street! 
We're a bit lucky as the new building rules don't let you build on 
stilts around us anymore. I think it also helps us to get the nice 
breezes and maybe helps keep down on pests getting inside the house.You 
could look at it as providing ample kayak storage and it looks neat!

Mark

On 3/2/2010 12:25 PM, Bradford R. Crain wrote:
> Mark:
>     It's a nice house alright, but if it's too high up to worry about, 
> why is it built on stilts? Is it to ward off uninvited kayakers?
>
> Bradford R. Crain
>
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
>
>
>> We have a house Near South Point on the Big Island. It should have a 
>> nice view of the incoming tsunami! It's too high up to worry about, 
>> but Hilo might get a bit wet. I'd like to know if they know it's 
>> coming or they're just warning in case.
>>
>> http://www.sandmarks.net/TLDHouse.jpg
>>
>> Mark
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From: Gillies Dalzell-Payne <gillies.dalzell-payne_at_ftinternet.co.uk>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:35:51 -0000
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Sent: 02 March 2010 20:26
To: marksanders_at_sandmarks.net; Craig Jungers
Cc: Paddlewise Paddlewise
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast

Mark:
     It's a nice house alright, but if it's too high up to worry about, 
why is it built on stilts? Is it to ward off uninvited kayakers?

Please Mister, I know the answer to that one!

Most Ha'awaians would say that the houses are on stilts to benefit from the
cooling on-shore breezes and keep the humidity at bay.

But I know that in reality it's just to create a proper-sized under-cover
parking lot for a reasonable selection of kayaks :-)

Far from warding us off, it's there as a place for us kayakers to fly-camp
;-) And the tsunami is coming to lift the kayaks into the parking place ;-)

Gillies (from an ice-cold Leicestershire, Great Britain)


Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Mark:
     It's a nice house alright, but if it's too high up to worry about, why
is it built on stilts? Is it to ward off uninvited kayakers?

Bradford R. Crain

> We have a house Near South Point on the Big Island. It should have a 
> nice view of the incoming tsunami! It's too high up to worry about, but 
> Hilo might get a bit wet. I'd like to know if they know it's coming or 
> they're just warning in case.
> 
> http://www.sandmarks.net/TLDHouse.jpg
> 
> Mark
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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:57:17 +1300
Hi all,

I was up in Auckland (opposite end of the country) at the Coastbusters Sea 
Kayak Symposium while waves of 1-3 metres were forecast to hit home. Tsunami 
Rangers, Eric Soares and Jim Kakuk, who were guests at the event, were soon 
tired of the comments directed their way.

Back home, there were three surges, one raising the water level 2.2 metres 
in one hour. Fortunatley that was at low tide.

Home was well safe, on a cliff 30 metres above MHWS, but I was concerned 
about my boat shed, which my wife had said would have to look after itself 
when I called to warn her at 5am.

The water stopped 30cm from the door, so no damage, but it was a wake up 
call to secure boats and not leave them on the floor.

After seeing first-hand the aftermath of the 2004 Asian Tsunami I'm well 
aware that should nature have moved a little differently then it would have 
been more than "CNN Showbiz".

Cheers

JKA

John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
New Zealand
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:13:41 -0800
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>wrote:

>
>
> After seeing first-hand the aftermath of the 2004 Asian Tsunami I'm well
> aware that should nature have moved a little differently then it would have
> been more than "CNN Showbiz".
>
> John... I'm glad the water stopped before you had some damage. It's
interesting how the tsunamis generated by the Chilean 8.8 earthquake were so
different in their results and heights as they impacted the land forms
around the Pacific. In Chile, in areas I have long dreamed of paddling,
there was significant damage very quickly after the tremors. Makes you think
twice about how to select safe camping areas. The ones we are attracted to
(with nice non-dumping beaches)  turn out to be the worst and the ones most
difficult for kayaks (steep-to or cliffs) seem to be the best.

Thanks for the update.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Tsunami from Chilean Earthquake and West Coast
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:29:20 -0800
Probably don't camp on islands in earthquake prone areas per news item as
follows:

Tsunami Hits Robinson Crusoe Island After Chile Quake

SANTIAGO - Chile's remote Robinson Crusoe Island was hit by a huge wave
after a massive earthquake rocked the country and aid ships had been sent to
the rescue, President Michelle Bachelet said Saturday.

The island, part of the Juan Fernandez Archipelago, lies some 700 kilometres
out in the Pacific from the Chilean mainland

Source:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/world/02/27/10/tsunami-hits-robinson-crusoe-islan
d-after-chile-quake

DL

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, John Kirk-Anderson
<jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>wrote:

>
>
> After seeing first-hand the aftermath of the 2004 Asian Tsunami I'm well
> aware that should nature have moved a little differently then it would
have
> been more than "CNN Showbiz".
>
> John... I'm glad the water stopped before you had some damage. It's
interesting how the tsunamis generated by the Chilean 8.8 earthquake were so
different in their results and heights as they impacted the land forms
around the Pacific. In Chile, in areas I have long dreamed of paddling,
there was significant damage very quickly after the tremors. Makes you think
twice about how to select safe camping areas. The ones we are attracted to
(with nice non-dumping beaches)  turn out to be the worst and the ones most
difficult for kayaks (steep-to or cliffs) seem to be the best.

Thanks for the update.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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