Re: [Paddlewise] bracing and power

From: <rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:47:20 -0400
I get ya now. I know the feeling of instant overwhelming forces. I just 
had one of those. My preference in that is still the shorter blades, 
having come from a long blade background (230-240cm. I know storm 
paddles to Chuck, but they were long to me.) (Sorry Chuck, that was 
meant entirely in jest.) Standard sea touring a 215 is fine, more play 
than go 205 to 210 with my 199 ww blade getting considered as well. 
What works for you is the last word, as far as I'm concerned.

I try to keep whitewater out of the discussion as much as possible and 
am not wholly successful at it, but I do bring it up as dynamic 
conditions are just that and they are often found there as the rule, 
not the exception. That and water obeys the same laws, be it fresh or 
salt so we paddlers, who are effectively out of our environment, better 
be darn sure we think long and hard about what we are doing. That is 
why this discussion is so interesting, people are thinking about the 
choices they make for what they do.

Cheers,

Rob G


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>
To: rcgibbert_at_aol.com; skimmer_at_enter.net; PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net
Cc: jimtibensky_at_fastmail.fm
Sent: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:25 pm
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] bracing and power


Sorry for tardy response on this - I'm sitting on a ferry off Wrangell,
Alaska and the web is not here ;-)

Paul wrote:
My own experience is that dynamic stability (from boat speed) helps to
overcome sea-state (clapotis & chop) - but is less useful in conditions
of cresting side-waves & surf, and much less useful in wind gusts and
willies. These situations benefit from a longer paddle (ie: longer than
my last regularly-used Euro paddle).

Rob wrote:
Dynamic stability is not dependent upon which direction features come
from, be it beam, stern or bow.

Rob, you missed my point. I know that the increase in stability from the
kayak's movement through the water (aka dynamic stability) assists in
resisting an upsetting force from any direction.

What I find is that the larger forces from sudden wind-gusts or big 
cresting
waves (side or head) may overcome your dynamic stability very easily - 
ie:
by stopping you dead in the water. If you haven't got a nice long lever 
arm
to fall back on (quite literally), practicing your roll becomes likely.

If your sense of balance is better than mine (it almost certainly is), 
then
you may be able to retain your balance with a shorter aid. For example,
anyone who can stand on a high-wire would find balancing a kayak pretty
trivial...

A long paddle just works for me better than a short one. It doesn't 
slow me
down and I don't accept that it has any adverse effects on my 
capabilities
or my enjoyment. I paddle often, I paddle hundreds of open-coast miles a
year, I've even been competitive in races. Yes, a long paddle has a
disadvantage in narrow rock caves or passages of a certain width, but 
that's
true of any two-bladed paddle.

I don't use it because I get a better brace from it - that's purely a
by-product. I can go fast with a short paddle - and a higher cadence - 
I've
tried it. For a short race, that's almost certainly better. Over a long 
(for
me) day's paddle - say 10-16 hours and 60-80 km - I am just happier at 
the
end of the day if my cadence has been lower. Others might do this with a
short carbon wing and laugh... People have similar discussions on 
bicycle
gearing.

I'm not on a mission to talk anybody into using a GP - or a
longer-than-usual euro paddle. If you are curious, try them and find out
what works for you - and when - and why. Paddlers that I admire (for 
their
accomplishments), use a wide variety of tools - and seem to get the job 
done
just fine. Anyone who claims that there is only one 'good way' has  
their
work cut out to convince me that it's all written in stone somewhere.

Best Regards
Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
(Temporarily in Alaska)
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