Chuck wrote: >>>>>The Iliad has a big blade.<<<<<< The first WW paddle I actually bought new (from PWS) was an Iliad (204 or 208cm, I think). The blades were just huge and didn't leave much shaft room between them. Great for bracing and learning to roll. That paddle was very heavy (and heavy duty and well made with strong glass blades molded over the shaft material) too and had a rubber grip material over a stout aluminum shaft. If I didn't paddle at least once a week, the rubber grip would give me blisters on the inside of my thumb. Once, not too far from the put-in, my wife capsized the brown glacier fed Nisqually River and had the Iliad snatched from her grip. The paddle then simply disappeared. Though feathered 90 degrees, no one on the WKC trip saw it float down river from where she capsized and most had been diligently looking to recover it. I hiked back to my car and got another paddle for her, and we continued down the river. Later, I thought that it must have gotten snagged on the bottom somehow. After the trip (or was it the next day?) Cam and I went back and with him holding a throwline upstream, I waded in the waist deep muddy river and felt around in the capsize area with my feet. Eventually I felt the paddle shaft with my foot or leg. It was vibrating as the blades, being held down in the rocks by the current fluttered in the current. I reached down and easily lifted it out. Later, realizing how much I hated that heavy blister making paddle I wondered why I had even bothered to go back and look for it. I gave it to a new paddling friend and told him to get a better paddle as soon as he could afford it. Chuck wrote: >>>>>>But sea kayaking requires unrelenting wrist flexing for offset paddles often resulting in tendonitis.<<<<<<< No, it doesn't! Read why not in the "Paddling" manual in the "Maunals" pickbox on our website. It is in the section about a third of the way in the Paddling manual called "Paddling Your Kayak" (the last long paragraph before "Motive Strokes"). Chuck wrote: >>>>>>I called Werner and asked them to make me some long paddles with 70 degree offset. I remember it well. They said you can't do that. No one makes paddles with less than 85 degree offset. Happily, they made what I asked. And what is acceptable today? Dogma, ever a pain in the ass.<<<<<<< Actually, I'm pretty sure Werner went to 80 degrees when they got off 90 feather. I already had Collmer making 75 degree feather angle paddles having determined by testing that 75 degrees was about as far an angle reduction as you could make without fluky behavior (diving and lifting on alternate sides in strong headwinds was the catch to going much further). I was using 15 dergee changes during testing. Not much trouble at 75 degrees, lots of trouble at 60 degrees, the most trouble at 45 degrees. Using my wrist protecting feather paddle technique (that I developed on the second day of a two week trip because of wrist problems I developed on the long first paddling day (but which hadn't bothered me much during years of sprinting and resting in WW river kayaking using the "bend the wrist back on the control hand" technique I had been taught). I had to do something or abort the two week trip and switching to unfeathered as John Dowd recommended was not an option for someone who had a reactive brace learned from several years of WW paddling. (Doug, John Dowd probably used a long paddle because he paddled double Kleppers--he was more influential than anyone in getting new paddlers to use unfeathered paddles though--to protect the wrists--at a time when feathering was almost universal--just another example of someone influential leading their flock astray. Dan Ruuska, Natural Designs, was an early example of a kayaking guru (for WKC anyhow) using--and advocating--unfeathered paddles when almost no one else did so for WW kayaking). I have to agree about dogma. Chuck wrote: >>>>>>>I had another paddle, don't remember what it was. Was it a Lightning? I can remember every paddle I ever had. Except I broke a paddle off Newport, RI one day while surfing some waves breaking high over a ledge. Poof, two single blades. I don't remember what that paddle was.<<<<<<< Chuck, if it was the Lightning paddle, that Cam and I are pretty sure we sold you (and you don't have now), you should have sent in back to us. Lightning's owner Hank Hayes, allowed us to offer a three year return policy for any reason at all (as long as you told us why you were returning it), including breaking it by accidentally backing your car over it. This guarantee was not for altuistic reasons. The three times as long as the competition (and unconditional) guarantee sold more paddles (and most loved them and very few ever broke). Most customers felt guilty about accepting a brand new paddle when they broke theirs due to their own negligence (and at least one even insisted on paying for his own mistake) but mainly we wanted to know if any of the paddles were failing in use so we could keep them as light as possible and still have minimal breakage during real kayaking uses. We figured if it didn't matter to the outcome what the customer told us, they would have no finacial motive to lie, and thereby giving us a false picture of what the real problems might be. We didn't want to be trying to fix what wasn't really broke. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. 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