Re: [Paddlewise] Longitude and astronomy

From: Robert Livingston <bearboat2_at_comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:07:26 -0700
No

The problem is more fundamental. The position of the stars does not  
tell you the LONGITUDE whether you have a computer or a sexton or  
"intuition" or a neural network.

It does tell you the LATITUDE. The Europeans knew their LATITUDE if  
they could get a clear view of the night sky. If someone tells you the  
LATITUDE of Hawaii and how many days of sailing west from San  
Francisco they could find it again (as those "hot shot" Europeans did)


Local knowledge with cloud formations, how long you have been  
paddling, birds, wave and current information can tell you where you  
roughly where you are in the absence of the visibility of land  
assuming you "know" all the local islands etc.

On a lesser scale, you have probably done the same thing in a dense  
fog. If you are reasonably alert to the sounds of surf, birds, waves,  
how long you have been paddling, you can make guess as to where you  
likely are.




And "Australia" is a pretty big target from 17 km out just from  
knowing where the sun is  :)










On Jul 28, 2010, at 6:19 AM, rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com wrote:

> I guess that if the position and movement of stars could be analysed  
> by European seamen trigonometrically, to produce a value for  
> longitude and determine a position around the earths axis; then that  
> pattern of stars could be analysed by a Pacific Islander's brain or  
> a computer to find that position without resorting to trigonometry  
> or the concept of longitude. Nowadays we'd call it something like a  
> neural network analysis, or pattern recognition program or some such!
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