Re: [Paddlewise] Longitude and astronomy

From: Robert Livingston <bearboat2_at_comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:48:27 -0700
>> The clock would then only have to remain within spec for 24 hour


Not really. The only useful clock is a VERY accurate one. You cannot  
stay linked with Greenwich by using an inaccurate clock and  
"correcting" it for local time. For one thing, when you are actually  
moving east west, local time "noon to noon" is no longer exactly 24  
hours. In fact, it is the discrepancy that you are trying to detect to  
see how far east west you have gone.


If you are not moving, then correcting your clock every 24 hours does  
you no good.

Part of the engineering problem was creating a clock that remained  
accurate under the varying conditions of temperature, humidity and  
motion that are inherent on a sailing vessel.

>>




On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Craig Jungers wrote:

>> The clock would then only have to remain within spec for 24 hours AND
>> MEASURE LOCAL TIME and not for months or years to maintain  
>> synchronism with
>> Greenwich. Presumably there were enough stars visible in both the  
>> southern
>> and northern hemispheres so that Cook in Australia could use the  
>> tables
>> developed at Greenwich TO TRY OUT THE LUNAR METHOD...........
>>
>> Thinking this over, the ancient Pacific navigators could have used  
>> very
> much the same system using a sand-clock calibrated for 24 hours.  
> Accuracy
> would not have been so great but then they would at least have had  
> some
> measure of local time.


What does local time have to do with figuring out longitude?  You need  
a clock accurate enough to detect that if you sail 100 miles west the  
day is longer than if you travel 100 miles east. That is not a sand  
clock.

And they did not have sand clocks anyway. They had no glass. You try  
and make a even vaguely accurate sand clock out of the materials that  
they had and sell it to your tribe as something that was useful. It is  
implausible that the natives were aware that the day was shorter when  
they sailed east than when they sailed west. This is awfully  
sophisticated stuff and would require a lot of formal experimentation  
-- the earth is round, it rotates on its axis etc.

What would even impel them to want to make an accurate sand clock?  
They were not trying to run a train system.
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