Regarding rusting knives. I have a tractor and one day when I was buying parts the dealer gave me a small spray can of Fluid Film. Brilliant marketing on his part since the stuff worked so well I have bought more spray cans and a one gallon jug! :) The one gallon jug was not cheap either but it will last me a couple decades. :) It gets applied with a paint brush. I use Fluid Film to lubricate tractor parts as well as any other mechanical linkage. It is also used as a rust preventer. I have some parts of a tractor implement leaning against a tree so for grins and giggles I applied Fluid Film. Fluid Film has kept off the rust for the most part. The metal has developed a nice black covering with a spec of rust here and there. The parts were coated 6-9 months ago and have been sitting in the weather ever since. Fluid Film has different grades one of which is used as a rust protector on ships and drill rigs. I think that stuff comes in 55 gallon drums which I don't think has much application in the kayak or tractor world. :) Lanolin is the ingredient that provides the rust protection. Yes, the same Lanolin that comes from sheep wool. WD40 displaces moisture. It is not a very good rust protectant. I may sound like a salesman for Fluid Film but the stuff works and works better than any other rust protectant I have tried. I hang out an a tractor/rural living website and a quite a few of the members have tried Fluid Film with good results. Nobody is complaining. :) And if the members had a problem they would tell you about it. A Fluid Film representative found the conversations we were having about their product and announced himself to answer questions which was interesting. The big problem with Fluid Film is FINDING it to purchase. The last I heard it is not in the auto part stores but the representative said they were working on getting into the chains. I get it from the John Deere dealer. The free can the dealer gave me years ago has led to at least $50 in sales. :) Later, Dan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dan McCarty: Regarding rusting knives. I use Fluid Film to lubricate tractor parts as well as any other mechanical linkage. The big problem with Fluid Film is FINDING it to purchase. Fluid Film is available in many different sizes on eBay. Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'd like to try some of this. I bought the cheapest dive knife I could find, so of course it rusted quickly. At one point I tried coating it with candle wax, which actually seemed to work well! Mark On 8/12/2010 3:50 AM, Dan McCarty wrote: > Regarding rusting knives. > > I have a tractor and one day when I was buying parts the dealer gave me a > small spray can of Fluid Film. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Eons ago, in college, I occasionally helped a friend in the Archaeology lab. Metal artifacts were protected after cleaning by immersing them in melted beeswax with maybe a little carnauba. The coating is hard, thin, and did a good job of protection. --Might want to try that... (It wouldn't surprise me one bit that nowadays this form of conservation would be frowned on...) Joe P. -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Sanders <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net> >I'd like to try some of this. I bought the cheapest dive knife I could >find, so of course it rusted quickly. At one point I tried coating it >with candle wax, which actually seemed to work well! > >Mark > >On 8/12/2010 3:50 AM, Dan McCarty wrote: >> Regarding rusting knives. >> >> I have a tractor and one day when I was buying parts the dealer gave me a >> small spray can of Fluid Film... >*************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Joe P. <jpylka_at_earthlink.net> wrote: > Eons ago, in college, I occasionally helped a friend in the Archaeology > lab. Metal artifacts were protected after cleaning by immersing them in > melted beeswax with maybe a little carnauba. The coating is hard, thin, and > did a good job of protection. > --Might want to try that... > (It wouldn't surprise me one bit that nowadays this form of conservation > would be frowned on...) > Beeswax would be an excellent protective coating; I'm only surprised that I didn't think of it earlier since Sue and I kept bees for years and recently discovered that we *still* keep bees. (A swarm of bees discovered some of our stored hives tucked away in an isolated corner of the shop's storage yard... so now wwe have a couple more hive boxes prepared just in case we get another swarm.) Bees are amazing little critters unfairly maligned for stinging (most stings are from hornets or wasps) and their wax and honey couldn't be more "green". Since the shop is only 2 blocks from our lake house I enjoy looking at the flowering plants in our garden and seeing "our" bees happily working away. Mark's idea of using candle wax would work even better using beeswax. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There are several wax-containing preparations on the market which allow lubrication and protection all in one package for aluminum and steel. Boeshield is one. CRC has one that compares well with some other products, including Boeshield T-9. Here is a quickie comparison of some of the popular products, with the CRC product coming out on top: http://www.myboatstore.com/corrosion_inhibitor.asp Corrosion Block is another (no wax, however): http://www.nocorrosion.com/corrosion-control.htm And, an oldie but a goodie: ACF-50 (has a wax in it): http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/acf50.php I've had good results with the last two, on electrical components exposed to marine air (and water, sometimes!), and on all kinds of aluminum exposed to salt water with the ACF-50. Beeswax is OK, but does not have as much tenacity of film structure as the ACF-50, in my opinion. Have not tried the CRC product yet. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have a knife that I found on Mt. Hood. It appears to be some sort of dive knife made of a single piece of metal, with circular holes punched in the handle, and came with a plastic sheath. It is dull as an astrophysicist on crack cocaine, but has not a speck of rust. I use it as a letter opener. Bradford R. Crain Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PFD knife or hook? Trying to prevent rust > There are several wax-containing preparations on the market which allow > lubrication and protection all in one package for aluminum and steel. > > Boeshield is one. CRC has one that compares well with some other > products, including Boeshield T-9. Here is a quickie comparison of some > of the popular products, with the CRC product coming out on top: > http://www.myboatstore.com/corrosion_inhibitor.asp > > Corrosion Block is another (no wax, however): > http://www.nocorrosion.com/corrosion-control.htm > > And, an oldie but a goodie: ACF-50 (has a wax in it): > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/acf50.php > > I've had good results with the last two, on electrical components exposed > to marine air (and water, sometimes!), and on all kinds of aluminum > exposed to salt water with the ACF-50. > > Beeswax is OK, but does not have as much tenacity of film structure as the > ACF-50, in my opinion. Have not tried the CRC product yet. > > -- > Dave Kruger > Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bradford R. Crain wrote: > I have a knife that I found on Mt. Hood. It appears to be some sort of > dive knife made of a single piece of metal, with circular holes punched > in the handle, and came with a plastic sheath. It is dull as an > astrophysicist on crack cocaine, but has not a speck of rust. I use it > as a letter opener. It's titanium, and expensive as hell! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I left a Spyderco Salt II knife on a stump on the North Side of Portage Cove on Revilagiedo Is. (Ketchikan) N 55 46.462 X W 131 03.581. I am guessing it is still there and should still be usable. It has a black handle, the non serrated blade and a green cord. First come first serve. If you get it let us know how it has stood up to 5 years of exposure. I had it on a lanyard and removed it while removing my dry suit to fertilize the forest. Hal *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
-- Or it could be one of the old original Tekna knives; they looked like that. The steel was terrible, could not keep an edge. Joe P. -----Original Message----- > >Bradford R. Crain wrote: > >> I have a knife that I found on Mt. Hood. It appears to be some sort of >> dive knife made of a single piece of metal, with circular holes punched >> in the handle, and came with a plastic sheath. It is dull as an >> astrophysicist on crack cocaine, but has not a speck of rust. I use it >> as a letter opener. > >It's titanium, and expensive as hell! > >-- >Dave Kruger >Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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