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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Missing posts and text formatting
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:40:52 +1000
G'day,

I've been following the discussion "A new way to teach the forward stroke"
and notice some early posts, from Gerald Foodman and Carey Parks, are
missing from my in box. Also noticed that some of my own trip report posts
were blank because I had used 'html' or 'rich text' formatting, consequently
I duplicated them, so apologies for the repetition, which appeared in the
digest. 

Does the use of 'rich text' or 'html' formatting prevent posts from being
received?

All the best, PeterO
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From: Bob Myers <qajaqbob_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Missing posts and text formatting
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:29:38 -0700
We only support plain text on Paddlewise.  We attempt to convert other
formats to plain text, but it doesn't always work correctly.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 15:40, PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Does the use of 'rich text' or 'html' formatting prevent posts from being
> received?
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Missing posts and text formatting
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:18:51 +1000
Many thanks Bob,

I'm hoping others will read also.

All the best, Peter



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Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Missing posts and text formatting

We only support plain text on Paddlewise.  We attempt to convert other
formats to plain text, but it doesn't always work correctly.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 15:40, PeterO
<rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Does the use of 'rich text' or 'html' formatting prevent posts from being
> received?
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From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Missing posts and text formatting
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:07:40 -0400
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 08:40:52AM +1000, PeterO wrote:
> Does the use of 'rich text' or 'html' formatting prevent posts from being
> received?

In many cases, yes; in other cases, it prevents them from being transmitted;
in still others, it prevents them (effectively) from being read.

Since I'm not the keeper of this list particular list, and therefore don't
have access to its configuration or log files, I can't talk about the
specifics in play in this particular case.  However, I can speak about
mailing lists in general because I've been running them for 30 years.

Best practice is to use ASCII text, and only ASCII text, with an
80-column line wrap for readability, for all email messages, period.
This is especially true when submitting traffic to a mailing list,
as you, the sender, don't know the fine details of the list's
configuration, nor will you -- for a properly-run list -- be able
to see the errors generated, because they'll be sent to the list-owner,
not to you.  Thus is you choose to use HTML markup (which all mail
clients, without exception, do a horrible job of creating), you're
not going to see the problems it creates -- which sometimes leads people
to think those problems don't exist.  But they do.

Messages that aren't ASCII text may be refused or held for list-owner
attention by the mailing list; they will likely be scored higher by
anti-spam mechanisms; they may be quarantined or stripped of HTML
markup by mail filters; they may be refused by recipient mail servers;
and they may be unintelligible to security-conscious users (of which
I'm one) who deliberately mail clients that don't interpret HTML.

So: ASCII text, 80-column line wrap.  For further details (rendered
in a tongue-in-cheek way):

	ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/mail/miss-mailers

---rsk
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