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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:01:25 -0700
Tragic. Leg-leash failure. Left behind. Death.

 

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http://blogs.twincities.com/outdoors/2011/10/11/detailed-account-of-kayakers
-death-on-mille-lacs/
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From: Elias Ross <genman_at_noderunner.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:53:38 -0700
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote:

> Tragic. Leg-leash failure. Left behind. Death.
>

It doesn't seem right to leave a fellow kayaker in the water as you
paddle to shore for rescue. I don't have much experience with surf
skis but I suppose your recourse for rescue options is smaller. But I
don't see how that option would ever be considered.

A couple of things come to mind. Why didn't the escort paddler simply
paddle to Todd's boat rather than attempt to swim to it? Of course,
maybe the escort didn't have a way to tow it. But at least they should
have been able to retrieve a cell phone.

I would also think just bobbing in the water together would be much
safer, as they weren't in danger of hypothermia and would eventually
be blown to shore. There is still a danger of drowning, but you don't
hear it talked about since hypothermia is what gets most people who
end up in the water.

Looking at the comments, it seems Nick Schade covered most of my
thoughts...I do have one thing I wanted to add though.

I do more recreational cycling these days than kayaking. Organized
bike club rides almost always have a 'sweep' which is in communication
with the ride leader. And it's sometimes the case the more experienced
leader is the one in the back. For cycling, this is important mostly
for flats, mechanical, or other incidents that can come up. But it's
also done for safety as that person can be there in case of an
accident.

Having a leader in the front is there to navigate. But you often see
the other riders get ahead of the front -- even if they don't know the
route! -- and then disappear or get lost. This happens quite
frequently.

The idea is groups keep together. But even with that stated
philosophy, I have seen groups that almost split up regularly. And
then I wonder if the group is really more about regrouping for drinks
after?

I think we all need to ask if the group we're riding (or paddling
with) is really doing it for safety's sake or incidental camaraderie.
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From: <jfarrelly5_at_comcast.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:34:49 +0000 (UTC)
Elais Ross wrote, 

"I think we all need to ask if the group we're riding (or paddling 
with) is really doing it for safety's sake or incidental camaraderie. " 



Outside of paid lessons/classes I have never seen a group of paddlers act any other way. Most people dont even know the last names of their fellow paddlers. I have kind of given up on the group concept because the group generally doesnt care. YMMV. 

Jim et al 
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From: Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:49:51 +1300
Jim said:
> Outside of paid lessons/classes I have never seen a group of paddlers act
any other way.

I paddle with two clubs in Auckland - on the water, one behaves essentially
as a collection of solo paddlers, while the other has a very strong culture
of no-one-left-behind. If I'm paddling as part of a group, I prefer the
second approach and I think I'm lucky that such a group has come to exist in
my area. 

If I'm paddling for exercise or adrenaline - then I won't go on a 'club
trip'. I'll chose to go just with similar speed/skill friends, to avoid any
tensions between getting a decent workout and 'watching each other's backs'.
If the skill/speeds are similar, it's easy enough to do both.

As Matt says, something like a sea-anchor would be a cheap 'parachute' if
other gear fails. We all know that often paddlesport fatalities are
domino-effect disasters (with many small events combining to create an
unsurvivable situation) - but this event seems like a single-point of
failure left them with really no good survival strategies to exploit.

I've been banging on for years about having critical survival gear on the
paddler and not just 'on the boat'. This is another instance where the
simplest insurance would have been a comms device (phone, VHF or PLB) on
each paddler. If it's too hot to wear on the torso - strap it to the leg
like a dive knife. With a comms device each, it would have required two
separate failures (of both comms devices) to... well, to kill them.

Perhaps the take-home from this event is that one of the most useful things
a kayaker can do - more useful than buying gear or gaining certificates - is
sit quietly - alone or with some kayaking friends - and play the What-If
game... I think it was Eisenhower who said "I have always found that plans
are useless, but planning is indispensable." It took me a while to wrap my
head around that.

RIP Mr Ellison - and may the rest of us paddle a little safer, in memory of
you.

Best Regards
Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:10:58 -0700
As a low-tech paddler, carrying only a pfd, I have just a few basic rules.
I try to paddle near the shore as much as possible, so as to avoid  
boat traffic
and make for a shorter swim if necessary. I try to assess weather and  
conditions
before setting out, as I don't much like surprises. And I try not to  
be dependent on fellow paddlers for my survival, as my experience has  
shown that
fellow paddlers are often oblivious of their surroundings and your welfare.

-- 
Bradford R. Crain

Quoting Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>:

> Jim said:
>> Outside of paid lessons/classes I have never seen a group of paddlers act
> any other way.
>
> I paddle with two clubs in Auckland - on the water, one behaves essentially
> as a collection of solo paddlers, while the other has a very strong culture
> of no-one-left-behind. If I'm paddling as part of a group, I prefer the
> second approach and I think I'm lucky that such a group has come to exist in
> my area.

> RIP Mr Ellison - and may the rest of us paddle a little safer, in memory of
> you.
>
> Best Regards
> Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:05:59 -0400
Nick had some excellant points in the comments on surfskiracing.com.

I really don't like the decision to leave a swimmer in the middle of the
lake.

Some here may recall my story last fall of chasing a windblown surf ski.
 We were only 2 or 3 hundred meters off shore, the paddler involved that
day didn't have a leash.  A passing motorboat grabbed the tumbling boat.
 The tumbling surf ski was moving at a fair clip, it was getting
airborne as it went off the wave peaks.

Figuring out how to stop a tumbling surf ski is difficult.  The
lightweight surf ski's are vacuum bagged carbon fiber, 
to successfully get a tumbling boat you would need to paddle downwind of
it, while leashed to your own boat jump into the water and stop the boat
with your hands,
then straddle/raft the two boats while the swimmer swam downwind to you.
 You might be able to turn broadside to the tumbling boat and get it,
but that seems like a really tough maneuver.  Any collision between
hulls is likely to hole one or both boats.

I've practiced paddling with a swimmer on the back deck with legs
splayed it works pretty well.  It's important to get to the centerline
of the boat.  Otherwise you risk having both paddlers in the water.

Another option could be to push the swimmer with the bow.   That doesn't
seem great to me, with large waves and a sharp entry bow I see this as
an injury waiting to happen - better than death, but definitely a second
choice to me.

Virtually everybody I paddle with would be considered a minimalist
paddler.  The only gear attached to the boat is the leash, waterbag, and
maybe camera or gps.
I like the idea of adding a waist belt tow line to my own version of
minimalist gear...

We've got a mixed group headed out for a downwind this weekend - I think
we'll have 9 surf skis and 1 outrigger canoe.  3/4 of the group is of
the watch out for each other ilk.  1/4 is prone to wandering off without
notification.  Amongst the crew are a couple new epic V8s that have
integrated bow and stern handles.  This is a great improvement for
getting a wayward surf ski.   With one minor exception none of the other
surf skis have any bow or stern grab points, the only deck lines are in
the cockpit or just behind it.

On more than one occasion have I chosen to paddle back out to find a
straggling compatriot.  We usually raft up every mile or so.

None the less the tragedy in Minnesota has me doing more than the usual
thinking.  I'm quite sure it will be a topic on the beach saturday, as
we head out.

Kirk

On Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:01 PM, "Doug Lloyd" <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
wrote:
> Tragic. Leg-leash failure. Left behind. Death.
> 
> http://surfskiracing.org/2011/10/todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-acciden
> t-by-zach-handler/?utm_source=rss
> <http://surfskiracing.org/2011/10/todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-accide
> nt-by-zach-handler/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-ellison-
> dies-in-tragic-surfski-accident-by-zach-handler>
> &utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-accident-by
> -zach-handler
>  
> http://blogs.twincities.com/outdoors/2011/10/11/detailed-account-of-kayakers
> -death-on-mille-lacs/

-- 
  Kirk Olsen
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From: Carey Parks <carey_at_jimparksfamily.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:28:25 -0400
How hard would it be to pack a sea anchor someplace where if the
paddler falls off or the boat inverts it would be activated? Maybe the
seat could be a hatch with a lightly spring loaded sea anchor under
it? Latched "saftey on" when not needed, and unlatched "safety off"
when aboard and paddling?  For those who may have been sky divers, I'm
thinking of the spring loaded pilot chute on our rigs in the early
70's to deploy the chute after the rip cord was pulled. I dunno if
they still are used. (he looks...) Yes, like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_chute


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> wrote:
>
> Nick had some excellant points in the comments on surfskiracing.com.
>
>
> On Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:01 PM, "Doug Lloyd" <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> > Tragic. Leg-leash failure. Left behind. Death.
> >
> > http://surfskiracing.org/2011/10/todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-acciden
> > t-by-zach-handler/?utm_source=rss
> > <http://surfskiracing.org/2011/10/todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-accide
> > nt-by-zach-handler/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-ellison-
> > dies-in-tragic-surfski-accident-by-zach-handler>
> > &utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-accident-by
> > -zach-handler
> >
> > http://blogs.twincities.com/outdoors/2011/10/11/detailed-account-of-kayakers
> > -death-on-mille-lacs/



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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:23:46 -0400
Falling off a surf ski usually isn't significant.  Falling off, in
strong winds, having your boat leash disconnect, and your boat blow away
is very significant.

Having a backup leash, possibly from pfd to the stern of the boat seems
appealing.   Adding a couple of surface mount eyelets with a length of
chord, at each end of the boat also seems worth considering.  

Having a good remount on a surf ski is akin to having a good brace in a
sea kayak.  You really don't want to leave sheltered conditions without
the skill.

The blog for custom kayaks has a lot of good pictures of surf skis.  My
purpose in this is to show people what the boats are and the lack of
grab points anywhere but near the cockpit.

http://customkayaksblog.wordpress.com/

Kirk
surf ski paddler for the last 15(?) years.


On Friday, October 14, 2011 11:28 AM, "Carey Parks"
<carey_at_jimparksfamily.com> wrote:
> How hard would it be to pack a sea anchor someplace where if the
> paddler falls off or the boat inverts it would be activated? Maybe the
> seat could be a hatch with a lightly spring loaded sea anchor under
> it? Latched "saftey on" when not needed, and unlatched "safety off"
> when aboard and paddling?  For those who may have been sky divers, I'm
> thinking of the spring loaded pilot chute on our rigs in the early
> 70's to deploy the chute after the rip cord was pulled. I dunno if
> they still are used. (he looks...) Yes, like this:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_chute

-- 
  Kirk Olsen
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From: Duane Strosaker <strosaker_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
Doug,
 
With my recent taking up of the surfski and ocean temps here about 62F
now and getting down to the upper 50's in the winter, I read that report with
much interest. I am fascinated with the lack of safety outfitting involved in
the surfski, but I guess the whole idea is that in a race there are boats
present to pluck people out of the water. On my solo surfski workouts I
haven't been venturing more than a 1/2 mile offshore because of safety
concerns.
 
What bothers me about the report is that Todd was led out by these
guys, given the impression that he'd be taken care of, and then let down. But
more so, he was a victim of surfski culture than anything else.
 
Duane
Southern California


>________________________________
>From: Doug Lloyd
>Subject: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
>
>Tragic. Leg-leash failure. Left behind. Death.
>
>
>
>http://surfskiracing.org/2011/10/todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-acciden
>t-by-zach-handler/?utm_source=rss
><http://surfskiracing.org/2011/10/todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-accide
>nt-by-zach-handler/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-ellison-
>dies-in-tragic-surfski-accident-by-zach-handler>
>&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-ellison-dies-in-tragic-surfski-accident-by
>-zach-handler
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From: Nick Schade <nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:12:29 -0400
My first reaction on reading the incident report was that leaving Todd to look for rescue was the same as leaving him to die and there were likely a multitude of actions that could have been tried first.  I tried to be careful in posting my comment as I didn't think there was anything to be gained in being too blunt and the more productive thing was to try to foster a discussion on improving safety protocols. His compatriots are going to have a hard enough time coming to terms with their involvement without some uninformed 3rd party like me suggesting they did anything wrong.

In a group situation like this in a competitive activity like surf skis it is awfully hard to keep a group together. The reason for the group is as much to have an impromptu race as it is a safety thing. Often there will be one or two safety conscious paddlers in the group but effective safety requires everyone look out for everyone else, and some means of communicating as the group spreads out. While it is fine to say everyone should share responsibility, in reality it is very hard to make that happen. In my local roughwater sea kayaking group we have annual discussions about maintaining group safety and every year we find our efforts break down in one form or another. So far we have been lucky.

I do tend to agree that the surfski culture is more of a racing/fitness activity without the safety emphasis that has grown around the expeditioning culture of sea kayaking. This may be due in part because the sport evolved in warm waters where a long swim is a viable plan B for fit paddlers. It may take some reprogramming of the culture as the sport gains more ground in colder water environments.

On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Duane Strosaker wrote:

> Doug,
> 
> With my recent taking up of the surfski and ocean temps here about 62F
> now and getting down to the upper 50's in the winter, I read that report with
> much interest. I am fascinated with the lack of safety outfitting involved in
> the surfski, but I guess the whole idea is that in a race there are boats
> present to pluck people out of the water. On my solo surfski workouts I
> haven't been venturing more than a 1/2 mile offshore because of safety
> concerns.
> 
> What bothers me about the report is that Todd was led out by these
> guys, given the impression that he'd be taken care of, and then let down. But
> more so, he was a victim of surfski culture than anything else.
> 


Guillemot Kayaks
54 South Rd
Groton, CT 06340
USA
Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
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From: Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Surf-Ski Death
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:41:51 +1300
Nick, as usual, I find your comments reasoned and constructive. It is
important for sea kayakers to remember that surf-ski activity is as distant
as white-water in the paddlesport continuum. Some things are similar and
some are just not the same.

While some primo surf-ski areas (Hawaii, Australia & half of South Africa)
have warm waters, I believe other centres of ski activity have reasonably
cool waters - Duane speaks of upper 50s in San Francisco and our Auckland
waters get down to the very low 50s mid-winter - as does the warmer side of
Cape Town. Our Ski community thrives year-round - and I believe the other
communities likewise cope with cool/cold water preparedness. 

I shall be interested to get the reaction (to this death) from my surf-ski
friends here.

Best Regards
Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
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