With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I know her days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My teens are doing their own camping these days with their friends so it was time to get rid of the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that seats eight but hard on gas and way too tall with my bad back for hauling a kayak and getting it on and off or even getting in and out). I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi wagons (AWD models are really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a used Subaru Outback Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of ground clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, and is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris but couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by Nissan called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real off road vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading anyway - just moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, muddy put-in. Now I just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and then maybe I can go find some solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues . My family will keep you in our prayers. The sea kayak can provide solace in difficult times. That I know well Peace Bob On 8/21/2012 11:27 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: > With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I know her > days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My teens are doing > their own camping these days with their friends so it was time to get rid of > the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that seats eight but hard on gas and > way too tall with my bad back for hauling a kayak and getting it on and off > or even getting in and out). I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi > wagons (AWD models are really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a > used Subaru Outback Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of > ground clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep > in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, and > is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris but > couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by Nissan > called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real off road > vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading anyway - just > moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, muddy put-in. Now I > just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and then maybe I can go find some > solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. > > > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bob, Yvonne passed away September 7th, rather more suddenly than expected after her long fight with cancer and a second stay at hospice. I miss her so much my soul is wrenched and twisted some days here, but time will heal. As soon as I can get my back surgery done, I'll work on a trip to Alaska before I kick the bucket too. The Subaru would be nice to drive there. I called the Alaska Kayak School, they had a used Valley Etain in carbon-kevlar sub $3000.00 on E-Bay, but it had already sold. My 17 year old daughter wants to get into the sport more seriously too. Life is still good, but I miss the sea too among other things. Doug Bob said: Doug, Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues . My family will keep you in our prayers. The sea kayak can provide solace in difficult times. That I know well Peace Bob On 8/21/2012 11:27 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: > With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I > know her days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My > teens are doing their own camping these days with their friends so it > was time to get rid of the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that > seats eight but hard on gas and way too tall with my bad back for > hauling a kayak and getting it on and off or even getting in and out). > I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi wagons (AWD models are > really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a used Subaru Outback > Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of ground > clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep > in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, > and is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris > but couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by > Nissan called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real > off road vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading > anyway - just moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, > muddy put-in. Now I just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and then maybe I can go find some solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. > > > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Doug, Really sorry to hear of your loss, a tough time. My thoughts are with you. JKA John Kirk-Anderson PO Box 409 Christchurch 8140 New Zealand JKA_at_snap.net.nz +64 21 634 448 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:06 PM To: 'Robert Carter' Cc: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Car Bob, Yvonne passed away September 7th, rather more suddenly than expected after her long fight with cancer and a second stay at hospice. I miss her so much my soul is wrenched and twisted some days here, but time will heal. As soon as I can get my back surgery done, I'll work on a trip to Alaska before I kick the bucket too. The Subaru would be nice to drive there. I called the Alaska Kayak School, they had a used Valley Etain in carbon-kevlar sub $3000.00 on E-Bay, but it had already sold. My 17 year old daughter wants to get into the sport more seriously too. Life is still good, but I miss the sea too among other things. Doug Bob said: Doug, Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues . My family will keep you in our prayers. The sea kayak can provide solace in difficult times. That I know well Peace Bob On 8/21/2012 11:27 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: > With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I > know her days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My > teens are doing their own camping these days with their friends so it > was time to get rid of the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that > seats eight but hard on gas and way too tall with my bad back for > hauling a kayak and getting it on and off or even getting in and out). > I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi wagons (AWD models are > really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a used Subaru Outback > Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of ground > clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep > in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, > and is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris > but couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by > Nissan called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real > off road vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading > anyway - just moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, > muddy put-in. Now I just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and then maybe I can go find some solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. > > > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hello Doug, I have saved some of your PW trip reports and old e-mails. I am sorry, and my thoughts are also with you. I have two colleagues -and my wife's father- who have been fighting hard with cancer and the future is unknown. Ari - Finland On 19. syyskuuta 2012, at 22:37, John Kirk-Anderson wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Really sorry to hear of your loss, a tough time. > > My thoughts are with you. > > JKA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks John. Service is this Saturday. Hopefully I will have enough closure to move forward and start taking care of myself next. I need to get this bad back dealt with and get back into some good paddling, where I left of when I got married in 1991 at least in terms of not being tied to a spouse, though I suppose I have my two girls to get through post secondary and out into the real world. By then I hope to be well enough to get into some hardcore paddling again too. Thanks to everyone for the back channel condolences. This post may be not so paddle related, but I and we owe a debt of gratitude to our spouses and partners who are gracious enough to allow us time to share on these forums over the years. Doug Hi Doug, Really sorry to hear of your loss, a tough time. My thoughts are with you. JKA John Kirk-Anderson PO Box 409 Christchurch 8140 New Zealand JKA_at_snap.net.nz +64 21 634 448 Bob, Yvonne passed away September 7th, rather more suddenly than expected after her long fight with cancer and a second stay at hospice. I miss her so much my soul is wrenched and twisted some days here, but time will heal. As soon as I can get my back surgery done, I'll work on a trip to Alaska before I kick the bucket too. The Subaru would be nice to drive there. I called the Alaska Kayak School, they had a used Valley Etain in carbon-kevlar sub $3000.00 on E-Bay, but it had already sold. My 17 year old daughter wants to get into the sport more seriously too. Life is still good, but I miss the sea too among other things. Doug Bob said: Doug, Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues . My family will keep you in our prayers. The sea kayak can provide solace in difficult times. That I know well Peace Bob On 8/21/2012 11:27 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: > With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I > know her days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My > teens are doing their own camping these days with their friends so it > was time to get rid of the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that > seats eight but hard on gas and way too tall with my bad back for > hauling a kayak and getting it on and off or even getting in and out). > I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi wagons (AWD models are > really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a used Subaru Outback > Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of ground > clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep > in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, > and is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris > but couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by > Nissan called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real > off road vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading > anyway - just moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, > muddy put-in. Now I just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and > then maybe I can go find some solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. > > > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug. On behalf of our paddlewise family we want you to know you and your girls are in our thoughts and prayers. Saturday will be tough but I hope you find meaning and hope in Yvonne's service. Saying goodbye takes time. Don't rush it just let the goodbyes, and the tears flow in and out like the tide. Find solace in memories of your time with Yvonne. Share memories with your daughters that together you can carry each other through these difficult days. Remember a man who once spent a lot of time in boats said "Blessed are those who mourn for they shall be comforted" peace Bob Carter On 9/19/2012 1:33 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: > Thanks John. Service is this Saturday. Hopefully I will have enough closure > to move forward and start taking care of myself next. I need to get this bad > back dealt with and get back into some good paddling, where I left of when I > got married in 1991 at least in terms of not being tied to a spouse, though > I suppose I have my two girls to get through post secondary and out into the > real world. By then I hope to be well enough to get into some hardcore > paddling again too. Thanks to everyone for the back channel condolences. > This post may be not so paddle related, but I and we owe a debt of gratitude > to our spouses and partners who are gracious enough to allow us time to > share on these forums over the years. > > Doug > > Hi Doug, > > Really sorry to hear of your loss, a tough time. > > My thoughts are with you. > > JKA > > > John Kirk-Anderson > > PO Box 409 > Christchurch 8140 > New Zealand > > JKA_at_snap.net.nz > > +64 21 634 448 > > > > > Bob, > > Yvonne passed away September 7th, rather more suddenly than expected after > her long fight with cancer and a second stay at hospice. I miss her so much > my soul is wrenched and twisted some days here, but time will heal. As soon > as I can get my back surgery done, I'll work on a trip to Alaska before I > kick the bucket too. The Subaru would be nice to drive there. I called the > Alaska Kayak School, they had a used Valley Etain in carbon-kevlar sub > $3000.00 on E-Bay, but it had already sold. My 17 year old daughter wants to > get into the sport more seriously too. Life is still good, but I miss the > sea too among other things. > > Doug > > Bob said: > > Doug, Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues . My family will keep > you in our prayers. > The sea kayak can provide solace in difficult times. That I know well Peace > Bob > > On 8/21/2012 11:27 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: >> With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I >> know her days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My >> teens are doing their own camping these days with their friends so it >> was time to get rid of the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that >> seats eight but hard on gas and way too tall with my bad back for >> hauling a kayak and getting it on and off or even getting in and out). >> I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi wagons (AWD models are >> really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a used Subaru Outback >> Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of ground >> clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep >> in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, >> and is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris >> but couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by >> Nissan called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real >> off road vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading >> anyway - just moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, >> muddy put-in. Now I just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and >> then > maybe I can go find some solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. >> >> >> Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Doug, Sorry for the delayed relay - I just got back from a paddling trip myself. My deepest sympathies. There is much solace to be found in sea kayaking - it's what kept me (relatively) sane after the death of my first wife. My offer stands - if you want a cathartic trip together sometime, we'll make it happen. But if you need to paddle alone for a bit as you work things through, I'll understand that too - also from experience. I've never met your daughters, but please pass on my condolences to them too. Philip ---- Original Message ---- From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> To: 'John Kirk-Anderson' <jka_at_snap.net.nz> Cc: paddlewise <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:37 pm Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Loss Thanks John. Service is this Saturday. Hopefully I will have enough closure to move forward and start taking care of myself next. I need to get this bad back dealt with and get back into some good paddling, where I left of when I got married in 1991 at least in terms of not being tied to a spouse, though I suppose I have my two girls to get through post secondary and out into the real world. By then I hope to be well enough to get into some hardcore paddling again too. Thanks to everyone for the back channel condolences. This post may be not so paddle related, but I and we owe a debt of gratitude to our spouses and partners who are gracious enough to allow us time to share on these forums over the years. Doug Hi Doug, Really sorry to hear of your loss, a tough time. My thoughts are with you. JKA John Kirk-Anderson PO Box 409 Christchurch 8140 New Zealand JKA_at_snap.net.nz +64 21 634 448 Bob, Yvonne passed away September 7th, rather more suddenly than expected after her long fight with cancer and a second stay at hospice. I miss her so much my soul is wrenched and twisted some days here, but time will heal. As soon as I can get my back surgery done, I'll work on a trip to Alaska before I kick the bucket too. The Subaru would be nice to drive there. I called the Alaska Kayak School, they had a used Valley Etain in carbon-kevlar sub $3000.00 on E-Bay, but it had already sold. My 17 year old daughter wants to get into the sport more seriously too. Life is still good, but I miss the sea too among other things. Doug Bob said: Doug, Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues . My family will keep you in our prayers. The sea kayak can provide solace in difficult times. That I know well Peace Bob On 8/21/2012 11:27 PM, Doug Lloyd wrote: > With my spouse now back at home from a critical stay at hospice, I > know her days are numbered. I'm caring for her 24/7 right now. My > teens are doing their own camping these days with their friends so it > was time to get rid of the GMC Safari AWD van. Great vehicle that > seats eight but hard on gas and way too tall with my bad back for > hauling a kayak and getting it on and off or even getting in and out). > I looked around and liked the Volvo V40, Audi wagons (AWD models are > really nice), VW TDI wagons, etc, but settled on a used Subaru Outback > Limited (preowned). It has a great AWD system, a bit of ground > clearance (seems less spartan than the Forrester and easier to sleep > in when one misses a ferry, etc.), is low enough for my health issues, > and is a bit better on gas than the AWD van (I took out a Toyota Yaris > but couldn't pull the trigger). In Canada we can buy a small SUV by > Nissan called the X-Trail but most of these smaller SUVs are not real > off road vehicles so why pretend? And I don't do real off-roading > anyway - just moderate snow, icy/really wet roads, and the odd steep, > muddy put-in. Now I just need a carbon/Kevlar kayak I can lift and > then maybe I can go find some solace on a kayak road trip in a while here. > > > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. If it were me, it would feel like an aching void in my life; I'm sure it is the same for you. I've been too busy to read Paddlewise lately, hence the lateness of my reply. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks Chuck. My memories of Yvonne and canoeing together every summer for a week with the kids and then the kayaking I did with my beloved wife and life-partner every year she was able to in the early fall are all so bittersweet right now. It is amazing how fast life went by, but the moments were made accountable as a couple and as a family as we endeavored to open our eyes and hearts to the wonderment all around us all the time. I was able to do this with my own solo paddling, with my beloved spouse on the water, and to teach this to our children when we paddled together. Yvonne's legacy of love proves to have extended our appreciation and awe of our natural world in that Yvonne had an amazing capacity to love and encourage everyone she met. The memorial service was chock full on Saturday, even saw a Paddlewiser there too, and this love for others was completely evident. And so she balanced us out as a family in that we saw her capacity for loving people, which I think allied with the love and appreciation of nature, truly is what makes it a special life and one that is rewarding and brings content. The void is unbearable right now, yes, but time will tame some of it, memories will be carried in my heart forever, and I will take the next stroke, pulling on the paddle as it were, moving forward like we all do, toward a horizon one hopes will bring new adventure and happiness. We are meaning-makers as humans. I find meaning thinking we shall all see our loved ones again one day, but the days of love and intense affection and understanding I was given by my beloved, and the days of simple reward on the water together were meaning and fulfillment in and of themselves. Doug Lloyd Doug, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. If it were me, it would feel like an aching void in my life; I'm sure it is the same for you. I've been too busy to read Paddlewise lately, hence the lateness of my reply. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Chuck, In case you want to view: http://apps.facebook.com/authorstream/Presentation.aspx?pid=1550315 Thanks Chuck. My memories of Yvonne and canoeing together every summer for a week with the kids and then the kayaking I did with my beloved wife and life-partner every year she was able to in the early fall are all so bittersweet right now. It is amazing how fast life went by, but the moments were made accountable as a couple and as a family as we endeavored to open our eyes and hearts to the wonderment all around us all the time. I was able to do this with my own solo paddling, with my beloved spouse on the water, and to teach this to our children when we paddled together. Yvonne's legacy of love proves to have extended our appreciation and awe of our natural world in that Yvonne had an amazing capacity to love and encourage everyone she met. The memorial service was chock full on Saturday, even saw a Paddlewiser there too, and this love for others was completely evident. And so she balanced us out as a family in that we saw her capacity for loving people, which I think allied with the love and appreciation of nature, truly is what makes it a special life and one that is rewarding and brings content. The void is unbearable right now, yes, but time will tame some of it, memories will be carried in my heart forever, and I will take the next stroke, pulling on the paddle as it were, moving forward like we all do, toward a horizon one hopes will bring new adventure and happiness. We are meaning-makers as humans. I find meaning thinking we shall all see our loved ones again one day, but the days of love and intense affection and understanding I was given by my beloved, and the days of simple reward on the water together were meaning and fulfillment in and of themselves. Doug Lloyd Doug, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. If it were me, it would feel like an aching void in my life; I'm sure it is the same for you. I've been too busy to read Paddlewise lately, hence the lateness of my reply. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug... look around for a skin-on-frame kayak. There seems to be quite a few available at very reasonable prices lately. I know your time is too limited right now to be in a position to build one yourself but they are extremely light (often under 30lbs) and easy to put on top of a car. Your choice of the Outback is a good one. As always, Doug, our thoughts here are with you! Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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