Re: [Paddlewise] not a good morning

From: Gerald Foodman <gfoodma_at_earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:25:18 -0700
I still don’t understand what exactly was the failure mode experienced by Kirk.  Sounds like it was whatever is analogous to your Q-towers.  Could these separate from the roof?  How can one assure that these are “absolutely rock solid”?  I attach my Thule cross bars to the factory roof rails, and I don’t know if the roof rails themselves could separate from the roof, though they also feel “absolutely rock solid”.  I don’t know how likely the Q-towers are to fail.


On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Victor Okunev <venuko_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been using the Y-shaped Yakima drydock rack
> (http://www.yakima.com/shop/water/truck/drydock) on my 4Runner to
> carry the aft of my enormous Current Designs Libra XT for many years
> with great success. The bow resides on the Q-Towers-roof-mounted
> Yakima crossbar. The kayak is situated on the Yakima Mako saddles and
> secured with the Riverside Heavy Duty Utility Straps from REI. This
> setup is absolutely rock solid, it handles 120km/h on the hwy as well
> as some really gnarly logging roads on the Vancouver Island without a
> single problem, fingers crossed.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> wrote:
>> So last saturday I had an ugly start to the weekend.
>> 
>> I was headed to Norwalk Connecticut for the lighthouse to lighthouse
>> race - my current favorite race of the season.
>> Skippers meeting was 8:30 AM, with an estimated drive time of slightly
>> under 3 hours.   I left home at 5, driving my wife's Prius, picking up a
>> friend at 5:30.   On the roof was my Epic V12 Ultra and my paddling
>> partner had a borrowed Epic V8 Ultra.
>> 
>> At 6:00 we were in Framingham Mass, chugging along on the Mass Pike at
>> about 70 MPH.  I heard a slight thud, looked forward, then in the
>> rearview mirror and saw the sterns of the boats.   I hit the brakes and
>> pulled over, with another thump as I started to pull over.
>> 
>> The roof rack had come off the car, first the front rack , then with the
>> wind resistance the back rack was forced backwards, and peeled off as
>> the 'door hooks' left the door frame and went into the indent along the
>> windows behind the door.
>> 
>> About 75 yards back the boats and the rack were in the breakdown lane -
>> avoiding any impact with the few other cars, or large trucks, on the
>> road.  We jogged back down the road to see what happened.   The V8's
>> damage was a 1 to 2 inch chunk out of the gelcoat in the bow - all
>> gelcoat, the fabric wasn't even exposed.   The V12 didn't fare as well.
>> From the damage it looks like the boats flipped in the air, so that the
>> rack was above the boats, and the assembly ground into the pavement on
>> top of the bow on the V12 and the end of one roof rack bar.   As the
>> boats and rack slowed down there was a small scuff to the front of the
>> coaming, and behind the cockpit the deck line was severed, leaving a
>> minor scuff (amazing that a deck line avoided more damage) and then the
>> stern slapped into the guard rail.    There's structural damage to the
>> boat, in the final 2 feet of the stern.
>> 
>> We gave up on going to the race, sniff, and drove home on back roads,
>> never getting about 50 MPH.
>> 
>> I've found a custom boat builder to do the repair work - his comment
>> after looking at it - "no big deal".
>> 
>> The V12 has no holes or handles and nothing to tie anything to outside
>> of the cockpit.   So after 12+ years of driving around with surf skis
>> which have no way to attach a bow tie down, I'll be finding a way...
>> 
>> $1500 damage to my wife's prius.  She's not happy with me...
>> 
>> Later on the ugly day, I took my Mako 6 out for a paddle in Essex MA.
>> My paddling partner commented I was faster on the beat up mako 6 than I
>> was on the V12 (prior to damaging it).  Depending on the post repair
>> feel of the V12 I may sell it and return to being an Epic paddler.   For
>> the time being I've got an Epic V10L ultra on loan.    If anyone here
>> weighs less than 165 pounds and likes a lively boat the V10L is good
>> fun...  I'm a bit big/heavy for it at 6 foot and 172 pounds.
>> 
>> --
>>  Kirk Olsen


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