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From: Brian Jones <mvhs-bj_at_mvhs.sad3.k12.me.us>
subject: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:45:10 -0500
I'd be interested in making a drogue or sea anchor myself.  Does anyone have
a pattern?  Can someone submit a diagram, materials list and/or dimensions
from one he or she might have?  

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From: Wayne Langmaid <langer_at_terrigal.net.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 20:57:02 +1500
G'day -

Does anyone have any advice on using sea chutes with kayaks on long open
water crossings??

I am specifically looking for information on deployment and recovery;
stowage suggestions; length of attachment line; suggested size of the
chute for a single kayak loaded with expedition gear; suggested
materials; suggested floatation size, etc.

AND  Do's and Don'ts.

Thanks in advance

Wayne Langmaid

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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 07:54:34 -0800
Wayne Langmaid wrote:
> 
> G'day -
> 
> Does anyone have any advice on using sea chutes with kayaks on long open
> water crossings??
> 
> I am specifically looking for information on deployment and recovery;
> stowage suggestions; length of attachment line; suggested size of the
> chute for a single kayak loaded with expedition gear; suggested
> materials; suggested floatation size, etc.
> 
> AND  Do's and Don'ts.
My only experience is with the Driftstopper made by Boulter of Earth. 
It is beautifully setup and well made.  I have not used it in long
crossings but experimented with it in strong winds that were trying to
send me backwards at a very fast clip.  The Driftstopper stops this on a
dime and pretty much keeps you in place with possibly a bit of backdrift
if the winds are real severe.

Dos and Donts:  I did everything stupid one can imagine with the thing. 
Would have made a wonderful movie!  For example, it has a small float
and I tried absentmindly one time to just throw the float out.  That, of
course, did nothing as you have to pull the drogue from its storage
sleeve on deck in front of you.  I have also in trying to recover it,
have come up on it too fast and had the drogue wrap itself around my bow
as it an octupus.  Things like that.  All of this is to say to practice
with such a piece of gear and don't let your mind wander.

ralph diaz
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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 09:51:01 -0800 (PST)
>
> From: mvhs-bj_at_mvhs.sad3.k12.me.us (Brian Jones)
>
> 
> I'd be interested in making a drogue or sea anchor myself.  Does anyone have
> a pattern?  Can someone submit a diagram, materials list and/or dimensions
> from one he or she might have?  


Besides being interested in this myself, if anyone has such a diagram for 
making a drogue, I would be glad to place it on the website I'm setting up 
for PaddleWise (where I will also be including the archive of the sponsons 
thread - good idea, Ralph).  I also might like to include a picture of
that kayak with both a rudder and skeg.  ???? 8-}

However, I think the cost of sea anchors (if I remember correctly) is
not in the extreme range. 

Cheers!

Jackie

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From: Jim Champoux <jim_at_sigall.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 13:10:18 +0300
Theres a couple of pix at this site
http://www.biggideas.com/sea-anchor/html/sea-anchor.html

No plans; its a commercial site, but if one was a seamstron...

Jim Champoux


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From: R. Walker <rww_at_mailbox.neosoft.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:41:00 +0000
> However, I think the cost of sea anchors (if I remember correctly) is
> not in the extreme range. 

Mine was $20-$30...
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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:52:19 -0800 (PST)
> 
> > However, I think the cost of sea anchors (if I remember correctly) is
> > not in the extreme range. 
> 
> Mine was $20-$30...

Cheaper than what I remember!  Not worth making one unless you 
just enjoy sewing.

Where was that?  Can you get it mail-order? 

Cheers

Jackie

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From: R. Walker <rww_at_mailbox.neosoft.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Chutes/Drogues
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 13:30:43 +0000
> > > However, I think the cost of sea anchors (if I remember correctly) is
> > > not in the extreme range. 
> > 
> > Mine was $20-$30...
> 
> Cheaper than what I remember!  Not worth making one unless you 
> just enjoy sewing.
> 
> Where was that?  Can you get it mail-order? 

I don't know about mail-order...  I got mine at Oshmans.  It
was just the chute, I did the rigging.   You might look at
Bass Proshops web page, saltwater fishercritters use them to
slow their boats drift while fishing.  Which is basically 
what I use mine for, in those situations where anchoring up
will make people mad, though it really does slow me down
to much.  I'll probably break down and add a little rigging
to reduce its drag a bit so that my drift rate will be
similar to other boats. 

Currently I run mine from an anchor cleat behind the cockpit,
but if I were rigging it for an open crossing, it'd have to
go forward, like Dowd's book illustrates.  Other posters 
indicated what a pain retrieval can be when its setup that
way though...
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