> I have a few comments on John's rather humorous rant (particularly as > Humorous? What humor? Dr. Inverbon sounds like a very scholarly and insightful individual. :-0 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> From: "John Winters" <735769_at_ican.net> > > Have been reading the posts on tethers and tandem boats with some interest > so took a few posts down to the random meeting of the Burk's Falls Sculling > and Punting Club for discussion and beer. This was hilarious! :-) <big snip> > There just isn't enough room to build > both a deck an a hull in large enough size to hold a GPS, VHF, > refrigerator for ice cream, paddle float, Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc, > tethers, assorted wet and dry suits, knives, folding chairs, etc.. Hey, ya know the truth is that us sea kayakers are just a bunch of lazy backpackers that haven't figured out how to do without certain modern necessities... :-) Cheers, Jackie _ _ .----^----. _ / \O/ \ / \ \\ " / \ \\ v---v---v---v---v `\ _ _ | __________\___ / \0/ \ | ( .__________\ . . " | \ / !!!!!!!!!!! \ / | \| ,sSSs,\, blah \ / )\w/( \ ,sSS..)/{) blah _V_ <<..> \ sSSS_v)/ \ \ | | )<*> /\ SS[(\_]___\ `| | .=======. <(_/_o_o_ / \sS[_`-+---+) | | | Cooler|>--\----+-------+<---->-'---`-----\-------------') ~~~~~~~ ~~~ jf~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~\~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ o \ o \\ o o (\ \\ o o >jf:-) ` (/ o o o o *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, John Winters wrote: >> >>Have been reading the posts on tethers and tandem boats with some interest >>so took a few posts down to the random meeting of the Burk's Falls Sculling >>and Punting Club for discussion and beer. >> [snip] >>On the other hand, maybe a bigger boat wouldn't look as nice on the BMW. >> >>Cheers, >>John Winters >>Redwing Designs >>Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft >>http://home.ican.net/~735769/ i assume this means you think we're being a little too serious??!! thanks john, that was great!! mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/cpr [Colorado Paddlers' Resource] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmskc [Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc [Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page] http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark [personal] -- Fortune: The goal of science is to build better mousetraps. The goal of nature is to build better mice. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Dan wrote; >I have a few comments on John's rather humorous rant (particularly as >regards his unfavourable comparisons of sea kayakers to canoeists): I really must protest. Dr. Inverbon and I are not the same person. Dr. Inverbon is a cheap SOB who won't get his own E-mail account but in all other ways is possibly sane. I, on the other hand, have an E-mail account but in most ways am not sane. (SNIP) >Hmmm. Perhaps the good Doctor has never used a tether while canoeing, >but all of the folks that I accompany on canoe trips to northern rivers >tether themselves to their boats through the use of thigh straps. Maybe >I just happen to hang out with an inferior breed of canoeist. Maybe not. >(More on this later.) Dr. Inverbon responds that canoeists that are infatuated with gear are really closet sea kayakers or, at least, sea kayakers living too far away from the sea for a daily commute. (SNIP) >Is any of this stuff really necessary? Of course not!! Does it serve a >purpose? You bet!! Once you pile up all of this gear, it becomes >immediately apparent that it makes great ballast! Our solo wilderness >tripping canoes (complete with full float bags) are essentially >self-righting. We have NEVER had a wet exit. No need for lead ballast >tubes or Canadian Ballast Rocks(TM). We can stand up, lay on top of our >bags and take a nap, or lean the boat way over on it's side to cool >off--we just pop right back up! Try that with John's minimalist >aproach. Of course you can always use John's rocks for ballast instead >of high-tech gear, but just try to use those rocks to radio for help. >To be fair, if they are painted white you can use them to spell out >"HELP!" in big letters, but where's the fun in that? (Me speaking) Actually we are working on that. In New Zealand the search and rescue people have been using a psychic to locate lost mariners. (HONEST) While the first experiment failed and the lost person was found hundreds of miles away from the psychic's predicted location, I feel this is just a matter of fine tuning the psychic crystals to suit the marine environment. Toward that end we are developing a Mark III version of the Genuine Canadian Ballast Rock (TM) that will be attuned to marine psychics around the world (sort of like the GPS but located in old Victorian homes rather than in satellites). In order to surge further ahead of the competition we will be using a modified clumping rock that will absorb odours like kitty litter and will allow sea kayakers to pee in their boats and then scoop the clumps out later without having the cockpit smell like a men's urinal at a football game. I owe this inspiration to Ralph Diaz and my cat, Hobson. Ralph for suggesting the idea of diapers and Hobson for letting me know in no uncertain terms that real cats don't wear diapers even in a kayak. >Oh, and one more point regarding John's comments: "Cloudy Bay Sauvignon >Blanc"??!!!??? Apparently my canoeing friends not only have better >taste in ballast devices, but better taste in wine as well. (Me again) "Wine makes a man better pleased with himself. I do not say that it makes him more pleasing to others. . . . This is one of the disadvantages of wine, it makes a man mistake words for thoughts." (Samuel Johnson) Like any good voyageur, I make a god of my stomach and only good wine is an acceptable sacrifice. >In short, the canoeists that I now are no less gadget-oriented than sea >kayakers, with one BIG exception. Nearly all canoeists that I know have >learned a wide variety of strokes, boat leans, and edging techniques >that they use to control their craft, whereas only a relatively small >number of sea kayakers learn these skills. Many sea kayakers prefer to >rely on supplementary devices (such as rudders). One would think that >with two blades per paddle, sea kayakers would be LESS inclined to rely >on rudders, but this apparently is not the case (with some exceptions). >It seems like it's time again for the rudder/skeg discussion. (Don't >blame me--John brought it up! He's just more subtle about it!) Ohh Dan, now you have let the fox among the hens. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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