I returned from a pleasant 3 hours of paddling on Shearon Harris Lake southwest of Raleigh, NC, to find lots of messages. Guess I'm lucky to live where the weather is nice today. El Nino may have brought lots of rain to the Carolinas, but it also brought us the warmest winter in a long time. Hopefully we won't have a killing frost this month and lose all of the floweres and fruits. However, the warmth brings another problem. During cold weather, if I paddle, I'm dressed for both air and water temperatures: cold. Last week I was fine in 60-ish degree weather. Yesterday was humid and 75 degrees. Today the temperature was in the 60s to low 70s while I was paddling. However, the weather is still cold. If I dress for the water, I'll overheat badly while I'm paddling. Until the breeze came up today, sweat was dripping down my face. This seems to happen to me every spring, but a lot earlier this year. Are there guidelines for dealing with this problem? I seem to remember some formula that added air and water temperatures to provide a guideline, but I know I never wrote it down. The second question I have was generated by the discussion concerning cell phones, radios, etc. I have a cellular phone that stays in my truck. I'd like to take it with me when I paddle, but I've always been concerned about keeping it dry. My hatches do get damp when I paddle in sloppy conditions and I pack stuff in dry bags, but I've seen them leak also. What would be safe, dry storage for a cellular phone? Bob -------------------------------------------------- Robert C. Perkins, Ph.D. Associate Dean for Research and Planning Methodist College, Fayetteville, NC 28311 910-630-7037 rperkins_at_methodist.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Robert C. Perkins wrote: > ...I have a cellular phone that stays in my truck. I'd > like to take it with me when I paddle, but I've always been concerned about > keeping it dry. My hatches do get damp when I paddle in sloppy conditions > and I pack stuff in dry bags, but I've seen them leak also. What would be > safe, dry storage for a cellular phone? Many marine supply stores sell heavy-duty poly dry bags for marine radios and cell phones. They cost about $20-40 and many are designed to use to radio or phone while in the bag. -- mike ---------------------------------------- Michael J Edelman mje_at_mich.com http://www.mich.com/~mje http://www.mich.com/~mje/kayak.html http://www.mich.com/~mje/scope.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 98-03-01 17:30:55 EST, rperkins_at_fayettevillenc.com writes: << Are there guidelines for dealing with this problem? I seem to remember some formula that added air and water temperatures to provide a guideline, but I know I never wrote it down.>> The only air /water temp formula I know of is for whitewater paddlers and states that if the sum of water temp plus air temp, in Farenheit, is less than 100 you should rate the class of river one grade higher. This system was developed before the use of drysuits and pile clothing. This is a true dilema when preparing for a paddle! <<The second question I have was generated by the discussion concerning cell phones, radios, etc. I have a cellular phone that stays in my truck. I'd like to take it with me when I paddle, but I've always been concerned about keeping it dry. My hatches do get damp when I paddle in sloppy conditions and I pack stuff in dry bags, but I've seen them leak also. What would be safe, dry storage for a cellular phone?>> We use pelican dryboxes for our radios and cell phones. We double check their waterproofness often by either submerging the box in a bucket of water to see if water leaks in or filling the box with water and shaking it to see if water leaks out. I trust drybags for items that are not ruined by a drop or two (or three or four) of water. Steve http://www.aldercreek.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Robert wrote; > >This seems to happen to me every spring, but a lot earlier this year. Are >there guidelines for dealing with this problem? I seem to remember some >formula that added air and water temperatures to provide a guideline, but I >know I never wrote it down. > It's called the "Rule of 100" and says that if the combined air and water temperature are less than 100 degrees you should wear your wet or dry suit. Like most rules it is really just a guide. There is no magic about 100 degrees but it gets you thinking about things. One always has to temper things with common sense. Obviously if the water is 32 degrees it doesn't much matter what the air temperature is. :-) John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I have a Deck Bag converted froma Costco fanny pack, which has a "dry" compartment. I simply place my cell phone in a Glad Bag and stuff it in the deck bag when I need it. There are dry bags made specifically for cell phones which cost around $30. cya > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:29:05 -0500 > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > From: rperkins_at_fayettevillenc.com (Robert C. Perkins) > Subject: [Paddlewise] A couple of questions > The second question I have was generated by the discussion concerning cell > phones, radios, etc. I have a cellular phone that stays in my truck. I'd > like to take it with me when I paddle, but I've always been concerned about > keeping it dry. My hatches do get damp when I paddle in sloppy conditions > and I pack stuff in dry bags, but I've seen them leak also. What would be > safe, dry storage for a cellular phone? > > Bob Denton Vice President Undersea Breathing Systems bob_at_dnax.com http://www.dnax.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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