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From: Geo. Bergeron <heritage_at_europa.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] The Basic Stuff/First Aid
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
>
>There was a couple on Steve's when we arrived. They were waiting out the
>fog, had no overnight equipment, no extra food and no compass. This was
>an interesting comparison to our "stuff". Even if we had been fogged  in
>for the weekend, we had tent, blankets, extra food and clothes. AND a
>compass and chart. 
>
>Debra
>Southern Maine Sea Kayaking Network
>

        This brings up an issue for me. . . I've paddled with one person who
didn't pack any water, no food, no compass, flares, lights, radio --
basically she had the boat, PFD, wetsuit, hat, and pogies. Dave Kruger knows
who I'm talking about. He was there.

        Dave, this paddler, and I decided to circumnavigate Long Island in
Willapa Bay. The day was Dec. 21 --winter solstice. The tide and daylight
windows would be very tight, but we did the circumnav without any problem.
Dave and I had extra food and water. 

 Here's my list of the minimal stuff to take for a day paddle:

Spare paddle
PFD equiped with: 
        Gerber River Shorty knife
        Three aerial flares
        Signal mirror
        Compass
        VHF radio
        Strobe light
        Watch (strapped to the vest, dry-top won't easily accomodate a watch)
100' nylon line
Water, about two litres behind the seat, and in water bottles, *hate* being
dehydrated! 
Paddle float
Bilge pump
Food, typically three bagels, some lunch meat, granoloa. . . enough for
overnight. 

        I'm thinking about putting together a first aid kit, but I was a
Medic in the Army, have a couple Red Cross First Aid certificates for
teaching, and feel comfortable with being able to improvise bandages,
splints and slings from the T-shirt, long-john top, spare paddle, knife, and
line that I pack along. Most  first aid kits that I see are "aspirin and
bandaids" which work for small children on a day trip in the car. . . But my
idea of a first aid kit is something that will manage broken bones,
lacerations, and traumatic amputations (OK, gunshot wounds too. . . the
Medic in me).  

        These sorts of injuries are managed generally with "bandages" made
from clothing. . . the T-shirt and long-john top are ample and well suited.
Spare paddles make decent splints for legs, arms might need a shorter
splint. . . part of a paddle. Bandaids and aspirin won't work for large
lacerations. 

        Hutchinson talks about a first aid kit with prescription pain
killers and minor surgery items. I think a forceps, tweezers, a scalpel, and
surgical scissors would be a start. Some very large absorbent bandages, a
2" roll of adhesive tape, and a couple "Ace" elastic bandages should manage
most injuries. But I think maybe the huge injury concern in paddling is
hypothermia and for that, a sleeping bag and a second warm body. . . When
hiking and skiing, I take lots of "bandages" for blisters--and also clean
socks which I suppose are part of a first-aid kit for hiking and skiing
feet. There must be paddling specific items on the first-aid list. 

        So what's on your list of basic paddling stuff?  

-------------------------------------------------------
 George Bergeron, Secretary
 OSWEGO HERITAGE COUNCIL  
 P.O. Box 1041, Lake Oswego, Oregon 97034
 Web Site: http://www.europa.com/~heritage/welcome.html
 Email: heritage_at_europa.com                                     

 




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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_seasurf.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Basic Stuff/First Aid
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:26:49 -0700
Geo. Bergeron wrote:

>  Here's my list of the minimal stuff to take for a day paddle:
> 
> Spare paddle
> PFD equipped with:
>         Gerber River Shorty knife
>         Three aerial flares
>         Signal mirror
>         Compass
>         VHF radio
>         Strobe light
>         Watch [snip]
> 100' nylon line
> Water, about two litres behind the seat [snip]
> Paddle float
> Bilge pump
> Food, typically three bagels, some lunch meat, granoloa [snip]
> 
>         I'm thinking about putting together a first aid kit,[snip]

>         So what's on your list of basic paddling stuff?

I have longer list than what I've added below, but mainly because I keep
the stuff I "need" on a multi-day trip in a bag where most of George's
stuff is also, and am too lazy to separate it out from the minimally
necessary stuff for a day trip.

'Bout all I'd add to George's list is:

a chart, 
a smallish tarp/space blanket, 
some dry clothes (hate sleeping in my wet suit), 
TP, 
headlamp, 
some firestarter stuff, 
and a fifth of tequila.  

The tequila is to fight off the boredom while bivvied overnight
somewhere.  If I'm stuck with my SO, we don't need the tequila (she does
not drink).

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: James Lofton <n5yyx_at_etsc.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Basic Stuff/First Aid
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:14:57 -0700
Geo. Bergeron wrote:
> SNIP<
> Dave and I had extra food and water.
> 
>  Here's my list of the minimal stuff to take for a day paddle:
> 
> Spare paddle
> PFD equiped with:
>         Gerber River Shorty knife
>         Three aerial flares
>         Signal mirror
>         Compass
>         VHF radio
>         Strobe light
>         Watch (strapped to the vest, dry-top won't easily accomodate a watch)
> 100' nylon line
> Water, about two litres behind the seat, and in water bottles, *hate* being
> dehydrated!
> Paddle float
> Bilge pump
> Food, typically three bagels, some lunch meat, granoloa. . . enough for
> overnight.
> 
>         I'm thinking about putting together a first aid kit, but I was a
> Medic in the Army, have a couple Red Cross First Aid certificates for
>SNIP< 
>         So what's on your list of basic paddling stuff?
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
>  George Bergeron, Secretary
>  OSWEGO HERITAGE COUNCIL
>  P.O. Box 1041, Lake Oswego, Oregon 97034
>  Web Site: http://www.europa.com/~heritage/welcome.html
>  Email: heritage_at_europa.com
> 

I don't believe I've noticed "the 10 essentials" ever mentioned here on 
Paddle Wise.. Is that "old" stuff and not used anymore?
I may be old fasioned, but I still cling to some of that old thinking.
On top of the "ten" I will carry toilet paper, sunscreen, bug dope, Dr. 
McGillicuddy(same small bottle for years!), duck tape, poncho, space 
blanket, most of the things you mentioned above(no flares,paddle float or 
strobe), and lastly, but not last, I TRY to have packed a good dose of 
common sense.. "I think that was the first item the person you paddled 
with left out!"

I must confess that 99.9% of the times I leave shore that I am packed up 
for atleast an overnighter. "incureable wonderlust"

James

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